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Mountain Lion Developer Previev 3 Bugs
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Crashes and bugs are not necessarily the same. If users see bugs and don't send them to Apple, they won't get fixed.
I believe that feature has been removed entirely. Which sucks because I thought it was kinda cool.
Just tested with a macrumors forum email(assuming that's the kind of thing you mean) and works fine for me DP3
HTML5 video is even more broken with DP3 Update. Now only goes to full window instead of screen, and when you go back to normal it turns the entire window grey and you need to close the tab/window.
Very serious bug for professionals no screen sharing in final cut pro
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You seem to miss the point of developer builds then. They are released by apple, under NDA to developers to test/code their applications against, and inform apple of the bugs found and discuss possible work-arounds with apple engineers and other developers.
They are not for general purpose use by the wider community, thus anyone doing bug reports or wanting support should be hitting developer.apple.com with their dev account.
If you don't have a dev account, you shouldn't be running Mountain Lion.
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You can think that and disagree with it all you like - without a developer account, and acceptance of Apple's NDA covering Mountain Lion you have no license to run (or, due to the NDA, even possess) that software. FACT.
If you want an open beta, petition apple for it. They will point you to the apple developer program for $99/yr. Until apple give everyone an official open beta, running it without a developer account is not legal - you're running pirate software.
If apple wanted Mountain Lion out there and in use by the general public they would release an open beta. They have not done this.
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Oh I'm sorry, I mistook this for a "community" my bad.
Why is it ONLY on this site that anyone even cares about the NDA? Microsoft community sites? nope. Other Apple communities? nope... Only here does anyone whine "but...but, but....NDA!"
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I find that odd, too.
There's too much hand-slapping going on here by some for these open discussions.
The discussions will stop when Apple enforces their NDA. Otherwise, if anyone wants to take the chance of openly talking about the DEV Previews then they do it at their own risk. Certainly, there is enough people doing it here and trying to act like the NDA police is not going to change anything.
There's too much hand-slapping going on here by some for these open discussions.
The discussions will stop when Apple enforces their NDA. Otherwise, if anyone wants to take the chance of openly talking about the DEV Previews then they do it at their own risk. Certainly, there is enough people doing it here and trying to act like the NDA police is not going to change anything.
Because if you want to help test the OS, you should be reporting bugs back through official channels.
By discussing NDA bound software on here, you're likely putting macrumors at risk, in exactly the same way as discussing/promoting/running pirate software, because essentially that is what you are running.
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Then you should let the owners of MacRumors worry about that instead of you acting like a policeman.
If MacRumors feels we are putting them at risk, they will shut down the conversation.
However, it's apparent that this kind of discussion pertaining to DEV Previews has been going on for years. We were all here discussing Snow Leopard a year ago.
And, MacRumors even created a forum for Mountain Lion 10.8, which is where we are now. Why would they create this forum to discuss the software outside of the developers area if they were concerned about being shut down?
Why is it there is always a party-pooper lurking around here shaking his finger at everyone and warning them about NDA agreements and such, yet this kind of conversation has historically been going on here forever?
Yes, Sir, we have been reporting bugs in the Apple Dev area. However, there seems to be another faction outside of Apple's private discussion forums that are taking interest in discussing the upcoming release. You shaking your finger at us is not going to curb it one iota.
We are here to talk about bugs, and share with the community. The developer communities apple has aren't exactly as active as MR, and are meant mostly for communicating with Apple. Macrumors, however, is a place where we can share workarounds, and different bugs we have found, so other devs are aware.
I've got awkward bug with Developer Preview 3 (technically 4 with the latest 1.2GB update?).
Was hooking my MacBook Pro 17" 2011 model to a Samsung S23A700D 120Hz monitor, as well as connecting a Logitech G19 keyboard and Logitech G500 mouse and a Sennheiser PC 350 headset and even though I use Apple's own overpriced Dual Link to Mini-Displayport adapter it would bug out when it comes to running my monitor in 120Hz. Some times it worked, other times it didn't the whole screen world have a grey noise layer like those white noise things you'd have on your CRT TV running analogue TV signals back in the day, just it was a layer so you could see the desktop and everything behind this grey noise layer.
However 60Hz worked, but the running fullscreen applications would actually make buttons not being click able for some reason. The conclusion was 120Hz under Mountain Lion was a no go.
This wasn't the end of things though, ever since I hooked it up to my monitor my entire system has started to bug out. Ever since I tried my system has a 90% chance of giving me a short flicker on the screen every time I launch Google Chrome and then my system will freeze completely, only to be resolved by crashing my MacBook Pro 17" 2011 model. So now running Google Chrome equals complete system halt and I expect this to have something to do with the fact that I tried using my external monitor because the screen flicker almost reminds me of the same flicker I tend to get each time I hook up a external monitor by mini-displayport. So I'm forced back to Lion until next Mountain Lion that would hopefully fix this rather annoying issue as Google Chrome is the number one application I use the most.
Was hooking my MacBook Pro 17" 2011 model to a Samsung S23A700D 120Hz monitor, as well as connecting a Logitech G19 keyboard and Logitech G500 mouse and a Sennheiser PC 350 headset and even though I use Apple's own overpriced Dual Link to Mini-Displayport adapter it would bug out when it comes to running my monitor in 120Hz. Some times it worked, other times it didn't the whole screen world have a grey noise layer like those white noise things you'd have on your CRT TV running analogue TV signals back in the day, just it was a layer so you could see the desktop and everything behind this grey noise layer.
However 60Hz worked, but the running fullscreen applications would actually make buttons not being click able for some reason. The conclusion was 120Hz under Mountain Lion was a no go.
This wasn't the end of things though, ever since I hooked it up to my monitor my entire system has started to bug out. Ever since I tried my system has a 90% chance of giving me a short flicker on the screen every time I launch Google Chrome and then my system will freeze completely, only to be resolved by crashing my MacBook Pro 17" 2011 model. So now running Google Chrome equals complete system halt and I expect this to have something to do with the fact that I tried using my external monitor because the screen flicker almost reminds me of the same flicker I tend to get each time I hook up a external monitor by mini-displayport. So I'm forced back to Lion until next Mountain Lion that would hopefully fix this rather annoying issue as Google Chrome is the number one application I use the most.
I've been an ADC member since 10.2, and I can attest that the threads on Apple's forums are few and far between, especially for certain matters (aside from "Mission Control", Open GL, Finder and other widespread topics).
Of course I am bound by my NDA, and I would never risk it. However, there are ways in which you can discuss important issues on MacRumors without breaking the NDA. Further, Apple has changed much of its development policy and program. Before Lion, it cost hundreds of dollars to join OS X. Then Apple lowered the price to match iOS development, $99. Lastly, Apple has increased invitations for memberships to individuals ten fold. Why? Apple wants more consumer input, and the more people they have to work for them in debugging and addressing UI issues the better.
In all, I very well doubt Apple is losing sleep over threads on Mac oriented sites discussing their next OS X. In fact, they're probably hoping for it, it'll give em more input
.So in the end:
Oh, chill out! Chill. Out.
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I have nothing against these threads. What I'm against is only posting in this thread and not reporting to the Apple. Those are the same people that then complain that they didn't fix it for release.
But people challenge the thread posters without evidence that they have or have not informed Apple?
Surely the key point here is, to let these threads continue and be confident that with the NDA and Apples private testing forum, that all will be okay with the development of Mountain Lion, and any issues discussed here could be picked up by actual legitimate testers to aid them in their testing for Apple?
While this wishful thinking it gives a more positive atmosphere on the forums and we can talk about cool new software.
ive experenced some pritty annoying bugs since installing the update for DP3 afew days ago
1. my early 2011 macbook pro's screen will sometimes flash then the screen will lock up, i cant enter standby but i can shutdown the laptop by pressing the powerbutton then pressing enter it does a proper shutdown, when this is happening the system will stay completly responsive but the screen and plugging in an external screen does nothing.
2. from time to time when issue number 1 happens the computer will reboot its self on its boot up.
3. if i put it in standby over night and turn it on again after afew days it will develop glitches such as notification center will not work or the keyboards F1 through to eject keys will stop working and at times launchpad will stop working nothing will show up.
4. after a crash my launchpad will sometimes rearrange everything, utilities folder renames its self to other for excample, at one point about 6 empty folders named other were created but disappeared on reboot.
1. my early 2011 macbook pro's screen will sometimes flash then the screen will lock up, i cant enter standby but i can shutdown the laptop by pressing the powerbutton then pressing enter it does a proper shutdown, when this is happening the system will stay completly responsive but the screen and plugging in an external screen does nothing.
2. from time to time when issue number 1 happens the computer will reboot its self on its boot up.
3. if i put it in standby over night and turn it on again after afew days it will develop glitches such as notification center will not work or the keyboards F1 through to eject keys will stop working and at times launchpad will stop working nothing will show up.
4. after a crash my launchpad will sometimes rearrange everything, utilities folder renames its self to other for excample, at one point about 6 empty folders named other were created but disappeared on reboot.
my list of bugs from DP 1 and DP 3
OSX Mountain Lion issues
Problems w/ Alarms (Freezes after attempting to open notifications)
Kernal Panic yesterday after sleep
OSX Mountain Lion DP3 Update
Continuing Problems with Sleipnir and downloading torrents
Several Crashes and Freezes that involved forced reboot of apps and entire OS
Reminders app crashed several times today (May 6)
OSX Mountain Lion issues
Problems w/ Alarms (Freezes after attempting to open notifications)
Kernal Panic yesterday after sleep
OSX Mountain Lion DP3 Update
Continuing Problems with Sleipnir and downloading torrents
Several Crashes and Freezes that involved forced reboot of apps and entire OS
Reminders app crashed several times today (May 6)
