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Huh, they're not showing up in there for me. I'm on a 2012, so I assume it should be there...

After upgrading to ML perform a soft update. You'll see that a new Efi Firm update appears, install it and the new power nap function will now show in Energy settings.
 
Can someone please explain to a noob (and soon to be first time Mac owner) exactly how a clean install differs from simply upgrading via the mac app store?

I purchased a BTO MBA last week and it's shipping with lion. When it gets here, will it make a difference if I do a clean install (since its brand new) or not? Will upgrading via the Mac app store leave lion os remnants on the ssd / slow down the computer?

Thanks!
 
Don't worry about "clean installs". Only ex-Windows types get hung up on them. Just upgrade.
 
Don't worry about "clean installs". Only ex-Windows types get hung up on them. Just upgrade.

The only people who should consider a clean install are those who were running the beta versions of ML. Everyone else should do the upgrade. Also agree on the ex-Windows types for whom a clean install every release was a Std Op Procedure. Also, don't believe people who claim a clean install results in a 'snappier' Mac. People who make such posts are simply engaging in a self fulfilling prophecy.
 
The only people who should consider a clean install are those who were running the beta versions of ML. Everyone else should do the upgrade. Also agree on the ex-Windows types for whom a clean install every release was a Std Op Procedure. Also, don't believe people who claim a clean install results in a 'snappier' Mac. People who make such posts are simply engaging in a self fulfilling prophecy.


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I installed it too, on my 2011 air..

runs extremely smooth although Lion ran smooth as well. i never had any problems with either..

biggest change for me: i can google in the safari address bar now, no need for chrome :)
 
^ agree on the address bar thing. luv it. I love how it loads with the new light blue color. It feels like its loading web pages faster, but it's probably just an optical illusion.

2012 MBA i7 8gb on mount lion. noticeably more snappy and polished.
 
After upgrading to ML perform a soft update. You'll see that a new Efi Firm update appears, install it and the new power nap function will now show in Energy settings.

Yeah for some reason the update wasn't listed in my updates. I downloaded it from apple's website and all is well.
 
Installed it yesterday, but to be honest, it hasn't changed how I do anything, apart from using the notification center (which I wish got my emails without mail being open) and I noticed that when I got back home this morning, power nap had eaten through 30-35% of my battery...
 
Thanks Paulioo, its good to know, i'm buying one while a friend is in travel in usa, and the one i can easily get is the 4gb version, i think is enough for me.
Can you run a VM in yours?
I can run VMWare with Windows 7 on my 4 GB 2011 Air. In general, whenever I check memory usage, my Mac uses less than 2 GB of RAM anyway, so 2 for Mac OS and 2 for Windows will work, but if you throw memory-intensive tasks at either, it may be a problem. I first ran BootCamp, and Windows was blazing fast. I converted it to a VMWare partition, and Windows runs fine, but it's not as fast as running in BootCamp.
 
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The speakers in my Air seem to have taken a serious dip in quality since the upgrade. They now distort and sounds are not as clear.

Font smoothing seem to also be affected, text under icons on the desktop look very pixely.
 
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Can someone please explain to a noob (and soon to be first time Mac owner) exactly how a clean install differs from simply upgrading via the mac app store?

I purchased a BTO MBA last week and it's shipping with lion. When it gets here, will it make a difference if I do a clean install (since its brand new) or not? Will upgrading via the Mac app store leave lion os remnants on the ssd / slow down the computer?

Thanks!

Normally it shouldn't matter. Macs in general handle OS updates better than Windows. Only do a clean installation if a problem occurs with an update. Note that I actually had such an issue (ML was giving me wake-from-sleep issues on my 2012 MacBook Air) that a clean installation took care of. However, that's more the exception than the rule.

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Installed it yesterday, but to be honest, it hasn't changed how I do anything, apart from using the notification center (which I wish got my emails without mail being open) and I noticed that when I got back home this morning, power nap had eaten through 30-35% of my battery...

The whole point of the "iOS-ificaction" of OS X is that it is less necessary to close applications than before. I have found memory management to be pretty good with Mountain Lion, though I do have an 8GB system.
 
Normally it shouldn't matter. Macs in general handle OS updates better than Windows. Only do a clean installation if a problem occurs with an update. Note that I actually had such an issue (ML was giving me wake-from-sleep issues on my 2012 MacBook Air) that a clean installation took care of. However, that's more the exception than the rule.


What issues? I ended up doing a clean install on my 2012 MBA because resuming from standby was taking about 5 seconds vs. the almost instantaneous resume on Lion. After the clean install, it's now even MORE instant, if that's possible.

I'd say there's definitely good reason to do a clean install in some cases.
 
What issues? I ended up doing a clean install on my 2012 MBA because resuming from standby was taking about 5 seconds vs. the almost instantaneous resume on Lion. After the clean install, it's now even MORE instant, if that's possible.

I'd say there's definitely good reason to do a clean install in some cases.

In my case, it would wake the system, but not the screen. The only way to turn it on was to power down and restart. Other times, if I closed the lid it wouldn't sleep.

The Apple Genius ran a slew of hardware tests and ruled everything out. He then reinstalled Mountain Lion. That worked temporarily, but then later that night it acted up again, so I decided to wipe the drive and reinstall Mountain Lion from the restore partition. That did the trick. It's been fine since. Wake from sleep is basically instantaneous now.
 
I've actually noticed that my battery life is a bit shorter than on Lion. On very light use, I could get about 5:30 to 6 hours, but on ML, it's about 5 hours.
 
I virtualised my D830 using VmWare Fusion and have it running on my 2011 Air. It runs faster as a VM Machine than the real thing. :)
The D830 isn't the newest around the block :) I've had something like that 2 yrs ago. My Windows vm was a lot faster than my computer at work :D

The only people who should consider a clean install are those who were running the beta versions of ML.
And people who want to do a big clean up of their Mac (ditch lots of apps, data, etc.). And people who have problems which they can't easily resolve.

If your machine is running fine and you don't want to do a major clean up of your system than there is no point in doing a clean install, just upgrade. If you run into problems you can always do a clean install afterwards if you can't resolve the problem(s) otherwise.

Also agree on the ex-Windows types for whom a clean install every release was a Std Op Procedure. Also, don't believe people who claim a clean install results in a 'snappier' Mac. People who make such posts are simply engaging in a self fulfilling prophecy.
The above is way too trollish and fanboyish. In some cases a clean install does result in a snappier Mac. It also means that the previous install was pretty hosed (most likely by the user :)). Doing a clean install is not a Windows thing, it is common practice in IT (the best way to create packages, images, test something, resolve some problems, etc.). Although I do agree that some people tend to take it to the extreme and reinstall with nearly every update.

Something similar goes for the use of combo updaters. They are great if you need to install it on more than 1 Mac because you only have to download it once, you can even roll it out over the network (which is what OS X Server can do) and they can help when the normal update procedure didn't go to plan (aka it fixes problems). Other than that, the normal update procedure via software updates works just fine and there is no reason to download the combo updates.
 
I'm relatively new to Apple and not sure how these updates work. What happens to all the stuff/app/files that are currently there?
 
OK, just upgraded and everything seems to work well. Tried a new back up in the process (SuperDuper) which I quite liked and will probably stick to.
 
I can run VMWare with Windows 7 on my 4 GB 2011 Air. In general, whenever I check memory usage, my Mac uses less than 2 GB of RAM anyway, so 2 for Mac OS and 2 for Windows will work, but if you throw memory-intensive tasks at either, it may be a problem. I first ran BootCamp, and Windows was blazing fast. I converted it to a VMWare partition, and Windows runs fine, but it's not as fast as running in BootCamp.

Thanks a lot for the answer!! I probably be using bootcamp to make it easier... And just to not worry and getting the 4Gb version :)
 
How is ML better than Lion? It's a genuine question: what has been improved that wasnt already great before?
 
How is ML better than Lion? It's a genuine question: what has been improved that wasnt already great before?


Mirroring to Apple TV. That alone was worth the upgrade for me.

Safari is better. There are tasks if you use stuff like that. Easier user switching. Nothing huge in my opinion, but it is only $20.
 
Clean install.

Just got a refurb Air yesterday and it have come with Lion. I was able to get the upgrade to ML though.

My question was how do I do a clean install -_-? Am not very good at this.
I installed it thinking it would give me the option but it just upgraded it lol.

It was downloaded from the app store so no usb stick or nothing like that.

Do i have to divide the drive up and install ML on the new one and then erase the other one?

One last thing, do I need to deactivate anything on my current lion before installing ML? Like my apple account connected to this computer or anything of the like?

Thanks in advance! and didn't really feel like I would need to make a thread for this.
 
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