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Move Ring is filling up faster than normal

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Gsmaniac

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Ive just in the last 24 hours shifted from an AW0 to an AW4 and I've noticed that my Move goal ring is filling up way faster than on my old watch. For example, my move goal per day is 2000 calories. I normally do a half hour walk while using the "Outdoor Walk Open Goal" activity tracker. Today with my AW4, this resulted in 1025KJ Active Kilojoules towards my move goal. However, on my old AW0 this figure would only be 729KJ. Its exactly the same route walking at the same pace. This has happened twice now.


What gives?
 
I have noticed the differences from one Apple Watch to another. I am currently on a streak of consecutive activity that I do not deserve. Even a change in OS can cause things like this to happen. Anything that changes software can have this effect along with hardware changes.
 
I really think mine is the opposite. I did a 30 minute walk yesterday and only received 200 total calories burned, 145 active calories and I walked 1.73 miles. I did have a streak until yesterday but that required me to go to the gym everyday but I didn't get a chance to yesterday so I did a walk at lunch. Sometimes it is pretty stingy with the calories burned. AW4, iPhone XR
 
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I moved from a series 2 to a series 4 the day it launched and mine has been like that ever since, much higher move than ever before and recalibrated, repaired, got watch changed for a different reason and still the same.

If I put a series 2 on one wrist and series 4 on the other and set them up properly, the series 4 is at least 50% higher move than the series 2 - been like that ever since the 4 came out.
 
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ttforever said:
I moved from a series 2 to a series 4 the day it launched and mine has been like that ever since, much higher move than ever before and recalibrated, repaired, got watch changed for a different reason and still the same.

If I put a series 2 on one wrist and series 4 on the other and set them up properly, the series 4 is at least 50% higher move than the series 2 - been like that ever since the 4 came out.
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Just shows how different Apple hardware and programming can be. I notice about a 25% difference between my AW3 and my AW4. I just use the numbers for comparison from day to day.
 
And the type of workout, and the device seems to weigh in this too somehow.

Case in point, I have a Peloton, and also a 'smart trainer' and Zwift. It seems to me that I get more 'credit' for the Peloton rides than I do for the Zwift rides. It's like the Peloton is 'harder' but the sweat and telemetry would argue that point. It seems to make no sense. I've ridden hard out on Zwift for 90+ minutes and ended up farther ahead with a 45 or 60 minute ride on the Peloton. *shrug*
 
I made a thread the other day about how my AW3 seems to be registering a much lower than normal heart rate for my indoor cycling workouts, plus it seems to be recording what the location and weather was which makes me think there is some bug somewhere confusing some workouts with others.
 
Krayzkat said:
I made a thread the other day about how my AW3 seems to be registering a much lower than normal heart rate for my indoor cycling workouts, plus it seems to be recording what the location and weather was which makes me think there is some bug somewhere confusing some workouts with others.
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My HR is pretty close to the Garmin strap telemetry. I've been mystified at the many people that talk about the errors, however the AW does have a flaw in that it relies on OPTICAL methods to tell heart rate, and your average strap uses ELECTRICAL sensors. If you have 'thick skin (?)', the AW won't be accurate, or if it's worn very loose. My 'gen 0' had issues with accuracy, and I had to rotate it around my wrist, or sinch it down tight to get it to be more accurate, and the Garmin strap just kept plugging along. I was disappointed that the electrical sensors on the AW4 aren't used except for the ECG function. It could solve a lot of people's complaints if it worked during workouts I think. *shrug*
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
My HR is pretty close to the Garmin strap telemetry. I've been mystified at the many people that talk about the errors, however the AW does have a flaw in that it relies on OPTICAL methods to tell heart rate, and your average strap uses ELECTRICAL sensors. If you have 'thick skin (?)', the AW won't be accurate, or if it's worn very loose. My 'gen 0' had issues with accuracy, and I had to rotate it around my wrist, or sinch it down tight to get it to be more accurate, and the Garmin strap just kept plugging along. I was disappointed that the electrical sensors on the AW4 aren't used except for the ECG function. It could solve a lot of people's complaints if it worked during workouts I think. *shrug*
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Does the electric sensor on Apple Watch series 4 require the finger touching the digital crown for heart rate? I know you need to touch the digital crown for ECG but am not sure about heart rate. If it does not require touching the digital crown, heart rate by electric sensor seems to be possible with a future software update. Well, it depends on whether Apple wants to do this if it is theoretically possible.
 
coldwaves said:
Does the electric sensor on Apple Watch series 4 require the finger touching the digital crown for heart rate? I know you need to touch the digital crown for ECG but am not sure about heart rate. If it does not require touching the digital crown, heart rate by electric sensor seems to be possible with a future software update. Well, it depends on whether Apple wants to do this if it is theoretically possible.
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Yeah, you're right. I keep thinking that the sensor is on the bottom of the watch. It looks so different. My bad...
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
And the type of workout, and the device seems to weigh in this too somehow.

Case in point, I have a Peloton, and also a 'smart trainer' and Zwift. It seems to me that I get more 'credit' for the Peloton rides than I do for the Zwift rides. It's like the Peloton is 'harder' but the sweat and telemetry would argue that point. It seems to make no sense. I've ridden hard out on Zwift for 90+ minutes and ended up farther ahead with a 45 or 60 minute ride on the Peloton. *shrug*
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If you have the Peloton app on your phone and have that set to share data with Health, Health will take data from the Peloton app. I don't know Zwift, but that's probably similar. Because each of these are separate systems, it's very possible they measure data differently. In addition, there's possible individual variation with the equipment itself. The Health app collects data from multiple sources, including other apps (where permissions are granted).

One of the things Health does -- which most people don't think about but which is really smart -- is to selectively allow data to be overwritten by other data in order not to count duplicative workouts. For example, you'll see a Peloton workout reflected in your rings whether or not you start an "indoor cycle" activity in the Activity app. In that case, both Activity and Peloton are providing information to Health, but Health will give priority to some of the information from Peloton (since the bike can see some things the watch would have to guess at). It's generally a very good system, but it does mean that Health is at the mercy of the data it receives, which may vary by the app that provides it.
 
I've definitely noticed waves where the move/exercise ring fills up faster than normal. I believe mine started happening sometime last month, so it's possible it's a seasonal thing, or just fluctuations with the hardware and software at times. My activities haven't really changed much, but I can tell you mine is definitely different, because I would always have about 20-25 minutes of exercise every day when I get off work, but all of a sudden it was consistently 35-40 minutes with literally no change in my pre/during work routine.

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I opened a case because the rings were moving backward after doing an exercise session. It turns out that somewhere in the update process, the rings don't reset at midnight, but reset AFTER you look at them the next day. So, like me, you do an exercise session, check for the rings, see fill rings, and then watch them retreat to less than 100%. And I have gotten notifications that the Move Ring is over 200%, only to have it retreat under 200% when I am checking it, and Apple has no explanation for why that is happening. Sloppy programming?
 
Ive been noticing this over the past ~2 weeks. I’m getting 1,800+ cals and 70+ exercise minutes on days when I’m not leaving the home. This has been a ~3x increase what in the output i expect based on prior experiences. I’ll have to try and reset the calibration and see if that does anything.
 
Don't know about the move ring but floors/flight count on AW is whack. I often get 60-80 a day... when i know i did like 15-20 MAX.
 
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