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Apr 12, 2001

Apple's butterfly keyboards came in for criticism at last night's Academy Awards. Talking to press backstage after winning an Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay, Jojo Rabbit director Taika Waititi took the opportunity to voice his frustration with the controversial MacBook keyboards (via The Verge).

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"Apple needs to fix those keyboards," he said. "They are impossible to write on -- they've gotten worse. It makes me want to go back to PCs. Because PC keyboards, the bounce-back for your fingers is way better. Hands up who still uses a PC? You know what I'm talking about. It's a way better keyboard. Those Apple keyboards are horrendous."

"I've got some shoulder problems," Waititi continued. "I've got OOS [Occupational Overuse Syndrome, a term used in New Zealand for RSI] -- I don't know what you call it over here, this sort of thing here (gestures to arm), that tendon which goes down your forearm down into the thumb? You know what I'm talking about, if you guys are ever writing. And what happens is you open the laptop and you're like this (makes uncomfortable hunched-over-laptop pose) -- we've just got to fix those keyboards. The WGA needs to step in and actually do something."
It's unclear if Waititi has any experience with the new 16-inch MacBook Pro, which features a redesigned scissor switch keyboard, largely based on the standalone Magic Keyboard for the iMac. Given the tried-and-tested design, the keyboard should prove far more reliable than the troublesome butterfly keyboards used across the MacBook lineup in recent years.

Apple is expected to launch a 13-inch MacBook Pro with a scissor keyboard in the first half of 2020, following in the footsteps of the 16-inch MacBook Pro last October. There is some hope that the 13-inch model will become a 14-inch model, but that remains uncertain.

Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has predicted that Apple will transition its entire notebook lineup to scissor switch keyboards in 2020, including all MacBook Pro and MacBook Air models.

It wouldn't be surprising if Apple completely does away with its butterfly keyboards, which have suffered from issues with sticky, repeating, or nonfunctional keys since their inception in 2016. Apple continues to offer free repairs to affected customers as part of its worldwide service program.

Article Link: Movie Director Taika Waititi Tells Apple to 'Fix Those Keyboards' at Oscars
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macrumors 6502a
Jul 8, 2015
Melbourne Australia
Excellent!!!! Apple needs a lot more public shaming. Bring it on.

Those arrogant dopes don't give a damn unfortunately.
Finally more over this keyboard, what a disgrace it was/is on the non 16 inch models
The Mac’s reputation has been destroyed by this stupid keyboard.
Apple only half-admitting there’s a problem once it affected PR and $$$ didn’t help.

It should never have left concept, let alone left on the shelf for 5 years.
I am still in disbelief how they ever shipped one of those laptops with those keyboards, it's embarrassing


macrumors regular
Sep 26, 2012
I thought that the negative press around the keyboard was overblown until I got the MacBook Pro for work. I currently have the key-doubling issue and it drives me insane! I can’t type a single email without experiencing the issue 4-5 times! It’s awful! I can’t wait to get rid of this piece of $3,500 junk!

I took an informal office poll of the people that sit near me that use MacBook Pros and 6 out of 6 had problems that they experienced daily with their keyboards.

I have done all the recommended steps to resolve the issues short of sending it in for repair. I’ll send it in soon because it’s so much of a problem.
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macrumors 6502
Apr 12, 2015
I mean, now that Apple is back to the scissor-style keyboard and already put out the first laptop with it.

You tell ‘em, I guess! lol
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macrumors 68020
Jul 29, 2012
San Antonio, TX
I’ve never had an issue with the keyboard on my current 13” MBP, but for an Oscar winning director to put Apple on blast like really puts on display how bad they are for a lot of people.

Abandoning butterfly with the 16” MacBook Pro makes even more sense now. The pros really must’ve been complaining.


macrumors 68000
Aug 15, 2010
Apple deserve to be roasted about this well into the next generation of MBP’s and the next, whether they fix it or not. They were perfectly happy giving customers a $600 bill to fix a single faulty key. I haven’t checked, but I suspect they still are. 2020 will be interesting when all those 2016’s run out of their 4 year warranty and Apple starts screwing the hapless owners.
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macrumors G3
Jun 18, 2017
If Apple's smart they'll send him the new 16-inch macbook. Although RSI has more to do with size of the keyboard and sitting position behind a laptop than it has to do with the quality of the keyboard.
All of the Macs have the exact same keyboard key spacing. ALL of them.

From the 11” MacBook Air to the 13” MacBook Pro, to the 16” MacBook Pro to the 21.5” iMac to the 27” iMac Pro, they are all exactly the same 19 mm key spacing.
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macrumors 603
Jul 29, 2011
which features a redesigned scissor switch keyboard, largely based on the standalone Magic Keyboard for the iMac. Given the tried-and-tested design

...but not as tried and tested as the original 2008-2015 keyboard (as used in 'unibody' MacBooks and the wired/wireless external keyboards pre-2015) which was the non-broke thing that Apple fixed.

The Magic keyboards have a re-designed mechanism with shorter travel than the original design. Nothing like as extreme as the butterfly keyboard, but still not the same as the original. Also, they feel like flimsy rubbish compared to the originals, so much so that they rapidly bend in the middle to touch the desk (doesn't really affect their use but doesn't bode well for the internal build quality).

Seriously, Apple, lighter isn't better for a desktop keyboard yet the Magic w/numpad is still lighter than the old wired w/numpad which didn't include a battery. I'm sure it was cheaper, though...

Mine's in the cupboard and I'm using an old 'Wired w/keypad' version.
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