I have tried just copying the data with no luck . I have tried doing a block transfer using restore in Disk Utility and I get the message "Restore Failure. Could not get volume geometry information - Permission denied" I notice that when I look at the info for the Time Machine folder it says I only have permission to read. I have tried to change permissions and apply to all contents but this doesn't seem to make any difference. I am working on a 2008 Mac Pro, these are all internal drives and the drive I am trying to transfer to is a 2TB partition of a 4TB drive. Any ideas very welcome. Thanks.