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Tries Chrome en FF on windows for many years, but nothing beat Safari on macOS. All happy with this browser and see no need to switch.

I use Safari on Mac primarily but I would not go as far as saying all happy with it still. There is still a lot of room to improve and I'm hoping the new beta Safari preview they're working on will bring this improvements
 
I haven't done it but the instructions are HERE. It's very important to read them in full. You need to check if your add-ons are compatible; if you use accessibility features you'll supposedly be prevented from enabling multi-process; etc... As always, make sure you back-up/clone before mucking about. I'm waiting, myself. I have a couple of extensions that aren't, or are unknown to be, compatible.

The OS and Apps use more resources, no doubt. But modern OSs, including OS X, optimize their memory usage far better than the past. Part of that optimization includes actually using the memory available in a smarter way (including overcoming its limits to an extent) rather than let it go to waste. RAM is fast. Some good reading on what the memory pane in Activity Monitor means HERE.

More specifics concerning efficient memory management because of OS X's virtual memory system HERE.

thanks for taking the time to explain and providing links

No kidding, though maybe this will help. Probably won't fix ugly much though.
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Yeah, Apple can't be trusted much for UI/UX anymore either. We all have to watch as they destroy what was once great, chunk by chunk. :(


I use Safari on Mac primarily but I would not go as far as saying all happy with it still. There is still a lot of room to improve and I'm hoping the new beta Safari preview they're working on will bring this improvements

One of the retarded things that they seem to refuse to do is keyword-search engines, in Chrome and FF I can go the url bar and type "w France" to search Wikipedia or "y iMac review" to search Youtube.

Works extremely well in
 
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One of the retarded things that they seem to refuse to do is keyword-search engines, in Chrome and FF I can go the url bar and type "w France" to search Wikipedia or "y iMac review" to search Youtube.

Works extremely well in

You know, I didn't know this feature even existed...That's really cool, will try it! Thanks ;)
 
Tries Chrome en FF on windows for many years, but nothing beat Safari on macOS. All happy with this browser and see no need to switch.

It depends, as there are a lot of extensions for Chrome & FF... but in terms of UX or rendering, Safari has been pretty good. (It's funny, I often point out that it wasn't all *that* long ago that Chrome started supporting Google Fonts).

And, we Mac users have been spoiled by Safari for a long time. Up until a year or two ago, when I had to use a Windows computer and browse with IE/FF/Chrome, their rendering of website nearly made my eyes bleed.
 
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One of the retarded things that they seem to refuse to do is keyword-search engines, in Chrome and FF I can go the url bar and type "w France" to search Wikipedia or "y iMac review" to search Youtube.

There's an extension that supports this in safari - you just have to create your own shortcuts. I forget what the name is but the term to describe the feature is "keymarks".
 
There's an extension that supports this in safari - you just have to create your own shortcuts. I forget what the name is but the term to describe the feature is "keymarks".

My understanding is that the more etensions the slower+clunkier the browser becomes. A basic feature like this should have no reason not to be included baked in the browser, it should be in the iOS browsers too.
 
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My understanding is that the more etensions the slower+clunkier the browser becomes. A basic feature like this should have no reason not to be included baked in the browser, it should be in the iOS browsers too.

I'd imagine it's like WordPress plugins. It would depend on how well they were written, compared to how well it would be implemented into the core, and whether the additional functionality is needed or not (and how it were disabled in core, if it could be, if not needed).

As a general rule of thumb, the more plugins (extensions) equals slower, but as one gets into the specifics, that isn't necessarily true (in WordPress). I'm guessing it might be similar with these browser plugins. All things being equal, it's better in WordPress (and I'd guess in browsers) to follow the plugin/extension model.
 
Why has Mozilla done nothing to gather information about downloaded images/pictures such as place of origin (meta data and such) the same for downloaded applications within DMG or as ZIP files.

Safari and Chrome based browsers all, to my knowledge, gather these informations and forwards them to the user upon first launch of an app. Or display the meta data when viewing the picture (wallpaper or other) within Preview using the Inspector.

It's been going on for years. For that reason and current OS X Mavericks look, I despise Firefox.
 
I like Firefox a lot and use it as my primary browser on my Windows PC's and I switch back and forth between it and Safari on the Mac. On the Mac it just depends on what version of FF is doing and rendering pages, like MacRumors and how its speed works. Sometimes it has annoying characteristics and can be noticeably slower than Safari. Right now I'm using Safari and will be for a while I presume.

I was happy to see Firefox on iOS and used it when it first came out, but it was painfully slower than Safari, especially loading our forums. But I do like the UI of Firefox better and how some of the nav buttons are at the bottom and easier to reach on the iPhone.
 
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Why has Mozilla done nothing to gather information about downloaded images/pictures such as place of origin (meta data and such) the same for downloaded applications within DMG or as ZIP files.

Safari and Chrome based browsers all, to my knowledge, gather these informations and forwards them to the user upon first launch of an app. Or display the meta data when viewing the picture (wallpaper or other) within Preview using the Inspector.

It's been going on for years. For that reason and current OS X Mavericks look, I despise Firefox.

That's what browser extensions are for; it's called freedom rather than being locked into what some developer thinks you should have.
 
I was happy to see Firefox on iOS and used it when it first came out, but it was painfully slower than Safari, especially loading our forums. But I do like the UI of Firefox better and how some of the nav buttons are at the bottom and easier to reach on the iPhone.

I haven't tried it on iOS yet, but I suppose the UI could be better there (certainly, it isn't on OS X). But, I'm surprised it would be slower, as it's the exact same engine. Maybe they messed something up with how they cache or something? (In other words, the UI should be the only thing different between FF and Safari on iOS.)
 
First impressions of e10s with Firefox 49.0 on FreeBSD-CURRENT:

… the GUI is noticeably more responsive for actions such as:
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… this version of Firefox is also running Mozilla's Rust language, which is designed to offer performance comparable to C++, …

For me, with TrueOS Desktop:

With an extension-free refreshed profile, the time taken by Firefox to load https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/pull/ ... -261684858 is around the same as the time taken by GNOME Web.

How are things for users of e10s with Firefox 49.0.x on Mac OS X?
 
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