MPAA vs College kids, not stealing as much.

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  1. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    MPAA Admits Mistake on Downloading Study
    Hollywood laid much of the blame for illegal movie downloading on college students. Now, it says its math was wrong.

    In a 2005 study it commissioned, the Motion Picture Association of America claimed that 44 percent of the industry's domestic losses came from illegal downloading of movies by college students, who often have access to high-bandwidth networks on campus.

    The MPAA has used the study to pressure colleges to take tougher steps to prevent illegal file-sharing and to back legislation currently before the House of Representatives that would force them to do so.

    But now the MPAA, which represents the U.S. motion picture industry, has told education groups a "human error" in that survey caused it to get the number wrong. It now blames college students for about 15 percent of revenue loss.

    The MPAA says that's still significant, and justifies a major effort by colleges and universities to crack down on illegal file-sharing. But Mark Luker, vice president of campus IT group Educause, says it doesn't account for the fact that more than 80 percent of college students live off campus and aren't necessarily using college networks. He says 3 percent is a more reasonable estimate for the percentage of revenue that might be at stake on campus networks.

    "The 44 percent figure was used to show that if college campuses could somehow solve this problem on this campus, then it would make a tremendous difference in the business of the motion picture industry," Luker said. The new figures prove "any solution on campus will have only a small impact on the industry itself."

    The original report, by research firm LEK, claims the U.S. motion picture industry lost $6.1 billion to piracy worldwide, with most of the losses overseas. It identified the typical movie pirate as a male aged 16-24. MPAA said in a statement that no errors had been found in the study besides the percentage of revenue losses that could be attributed to college students, but that it would hire a third party to validate the numbers.

    "We take this error very seriously and have taken strong and immediate action to both investigate the root cause of this problem as well as substantiate the accuracy of the latest report," the group said in a statement.

    Terry Hartle, vice president of the American Council on Education, which represents higher education in Washington, said the mistakes showed the entertainment industry has unfairly targeted college campuses.
    "Illegal peer-to-peer file-sharing is a society-wide problem. Some of it occurs at college s and universities but it is a small portion of the total," he said, adding colleges will continue to take the problem seriously, but more regulation isn't necessary.
  2. donga macrumors 6502a


    May 16, 2005
    they finally admitted a mistake... now they need to rethink their approach to the digital age. note to mpaa: it's not working.
  3. zioxide macrumors 603


    Dec 11, 2006
    That's a statistical fallacy. Just because someone pirates a movie doesn't mean they would go pay $12 to watch it if they didn't download it.

    The MPAA can go **** themselves. I'm sick of their ****ing bully tactics to try to get people to comply with their ********. I also don't want my college to waste a ton of money trying to combat file sharing (which will never work, there's no way you can stop it completely) when they could be spending it making the school better.
  4. killerrobot macrumors 68020


    Jun 7, 2007
    F"·$ing A man. F"·$ing A.
    Seriously though, how could your stats be 30% off. I'd agree even more with the IT university guy that said it might be more like 3%. I think most college kids now a days are either too busy with the opposite sex or at a frat party to bother to download a movie anyways.:p

    I'm glad to know that I'm not in the "typical movie pirate" description they have. They'll never find me now.;)
  5. cantthinkofone macrumors 65816


    Jul 25, 2004
    Missouri, USA

    now if they would do the same with the "war" on drugs, and underage drinking.

    how much money could be saved, and spent on things that are needed? Education, roads, medical research, and my fav NASA.
  6. Iscariot macrumors 68030


    Aug 16, 2007
    Bottomline scraping is always a waste of time and effort. They cried the same wolf over VCRs.
  7. theman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 26, 2007
    You know what the movie "industry" biggest loss comes from? The millions they spend on lawyers, filing suits, and the MPAA in general. Didn't any of them go to business school? Their spending is retarded.

    Oh yeah, and making better movies would help. Most of them now are just remakes of old movies or of books. Oh please...
  8. KingYaba macrumors 68040


    Aug 7, 2005
    Up the irons
    ^ add comic books to that list, theman. Spideyman does not appeal to me.

    Downloaded mp3 does not equal lost sale. Someone stated this already and I agree. The compact disk is a dying medium and I'm not too sure they realize this.
  9. Solesk macrumors member

    Sep 12, 2007
    sounds to me like those college kids just arent pulling their weight and downloading as much as the real world. they should be better prepared.

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