MS killing the Edge browser

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  1. maflynn, Dec 5, 2018
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    I think I used it twice by accident LOL so no biggie
     
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    From what I understand it is going to be Chromium based, using Chrome’s blink engine, just like Chrome, Opera and Brave. They had already been using Blink for the Android version of Edge (IOS version uses Apples WebKit).

    More Chrome assimilation it appears :)
     
  4. redheeler macrumors 604

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    Seems like many people have thought of Edge as simply a newer version of Internet Explorer with a similar icon, and hence the stigma carried over.

    Regardless, the world doesn't need yet another Chromium-based browser chewing up battery life on laptops.
     
  5. Queen6, Dec 5, 2018
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    For basic browsing needs Edge is good enough, nor do I want MS to kill it, and replace it with yet another Chromium based clone. I certainly wont use Google's Chrome, my other choice of browser is Firefox. Certainly Edge's handling of large PDF's is advantageous for me, importantly easy on the battery.

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  6. SDColorado, Dec 5, 2018
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    Yeah, and that will be the interesting story moving forward. Microsoft pushes Edge on you from initial startup extolling the virtues of Edge over Chrome in terms of battery life. Now it will be yet another Chrome Blink based browser itself.

    We are Chromium of Google, Blink and you will be assimilated :)

    Agreed. I liked Edge while on battery. That’s primarily when I used it. It’s handling of large PDF’s and as an e-reader for books in tablet mode.

    Why the one-off Apple WebKit version for IOS though? Did they have to bow to Apple to get it approved for the App Store? It’s not like you can’t already download other Chrome based browsers though. Dunno.
     
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    Probably still won't use it. I gave edge a shot but the lack of addons was a deal breaker. I think there are addons now. I still don't care for the lack of customization I get with Firefox.

    Now if they built it off Firefox and kept full addon and about:config support. I'd consider it.
     
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    Good riddance. The few times I used it, the websites I visited would only work with Internet Explorer. No loss for me...when I'm stuck using a PC.
     
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    I really enjoy Edge and will be sad to see it go. Supremely light-weight. I love how it renders web-pages and it's general aesthetic. Back to Firefox when it's killed I guess.
     
  10. rafark, Dec 5, 2018
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    Finally. Edge is a piece of crap. I am using a win 10 laptop with no programs installed and this piece of trash can't even handle the mac rumors front page. In fact, I had to re-write half this comment because the page refreshed as usual.

    Interpreting modern JavaScript is no joke. On the other hand we're getting closer to web standards which results in much better websites and web apps. BTW Firefox for OS X is extremely slow.
     
  11. mi7chy macrumors 603

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    My go to browser is Chrome except for 8K/4K YouTube where Edge ironically handles it better. Also, Edge is lighter on lower power devices running on Apollo/Gemini Lake type of CPUs. Hope the Edge replacement keep those aspects and isn't just another reskinned Chrome.
     
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    That is interesting that you are having issues with MacRumors and Edge. I use it on my Surface for browsing MacRumors and it works about the same and as well with Edge as it does with Safari. I really don't notice any differences going from one to the other.
     
  13. Queen6, Dec 5, 2018
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    Same here I haven't seen any issue with Edge outside of some extensions that simply don't exist.

    Edge did seem to go through a period where it wouldn't recover previous tabs, however that looks to have been resolved in later releases.

    Little disappointed that Microsoft didn't try harder as Edge being new from the ground up clearly had potential. Another Chromium clone on face value is simply not attractive at all. Worst comes to worst I'm fine with Firefox.

    As a lightweight & secure browser Edge is more than good enough for the basic tasks and ideal for lower power devices on the go.

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  14. c0ppo macrumors 65816

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    I don't get all the hate Edge gets.
    It's a lightweight and fast browser that is easy on the battery, and has some cool features, like pen features, saving and loading sessions...

    My only gripes with it is extensions. Like there are huge issues with 1password extension, and it's not 1passwords fault. And the UI is ugly when in dark mode. But MS isn't famous for producing nice looking UI, so...

    As far as iOS version goes, well, they have to use what Apple says, and that is the old version of WebKit. Same goes for any other browser on iOS, including Chrome. So Safari has no competition at all on iOS.

    And everyone loves Chrome, but I personally hate it. Chrome isn't powerful, not even with extensions. And it's bad news for battery life, and I hate that google gets to crawl on my drives.

    Personally I use Vivaldi, it's based on blink, but way more powerful then Chrome, it's the most customizable browser out there. By far. Even FF is a toy when compared to Vivaldi.

    But on laptops I've used Safari on MBP. Lightweight, excellent for battery, best gestures ever. And it's fast.
    On Windows laptops I use Edge.

    Vivaldi for 'power' browsing on every platform :)
     
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    I edited the OP, I made a mistake, Edge wasn't gaining marketshare and the video mentions the reasons.

    I tried Edge early on, and it was horrible. It was enough to turn me off. Microsoft is doing a lot right, yet they still seem to fall in design by committee and lack a level of precision that is needed at times. While edge improved over the years, people have moved on, and Chrome is the defacto winner at this point.

    My company which is rolling out builds includes Chrome in the standard build - unusual since their stance is IE is the only supported browser permitted. At least that was the case, and looks they realized most people use Edge or IE now just pull up google and download chrome
     
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    Thank goodness for Firefox I guess, Edge actually is pretty good on Windows and I found it better than IE.
     
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    Same here, I'll look at Vivaldi :) As for Google I do my very best to prevent any of it's intrusive garbage getting on my systems. All these tech companies have it completely ****ing wrong everything should be off by default with clear opt in only and they need to stop bundling their crap software period...

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    Here is a short video:


    I just fast tracked it, it's old and not really comprehensive, but for start it will do.
    Try out Tab Stacking, Split Screen, Session Manager, Quick Commands, Web Panels. Those are just for the start. There are literally 1000x more stuff in that browser, like your own theming (just pick colors and how they will behave), address bar and tab bar positioning, excellent notes integrated into browser, UI scaling, great syncing abilities (you can choose individually what you want to sync, and what not...), every KB shortcut is customizable, etc.

    I think it would take 10 pages just to list the DEFAULT possibilities of this browser. And even with no extensions, it's way more powerful then Opera + FF + all extensions possible combined.

    And the best part is that EVERY chrome extension works. As do Opera extensions. Give it a week or so, then try using any other browser. It will be like going from a pick up truck to using BMX bike.

    Of course, not everyone needs all these features. And everything can be turned on/off, entire point of Vivaldi is complete and full customization. That is the sole reason I love that browser so much. A true successor to Opera browser.
     
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    Bink is also the browser engine that Microsoft will be using for Anaheim (I really hope they call it something else if they want it to "sell"). I wonder if they will borrow more from Vivaldi than from Chrome for the new browser?

    I have never been a use extensions guy, so I guess I haven't missed much with Edge. I pretty much use LastPass, Grammarly and uBlock Origin. Perhaps there are others I should be using, but I just don't have a need for many :)
     
  20. phunigai Suspended

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    jeez, How could a web broser lose money? off topic but NBCSports does not stream English football on Waterfox, only safari and what else is out there that is run by a billionaire company. other sports sites do run on waterfox, huh!
     
  21. AndyMacAndMic macrumors 6502a

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    There are already companies who build their systems around Edge. In that case Microsoft has to keep Edge in Windows 10 for backwards compatibility just like they did with Internet Explorer.

    I am curious how Microsoft is going to solve that. Having Internet Explorer, Edge and a new Internet browser in Windows 10 seems a bit awkward and clunky.
     
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    windows ?.....can some poor slob delete microsoft programs like their music thing in windows number?.?
     
  23. AndyMacAndMic macrumors 6502a

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    I read your sentence 4 times and I still have no clue what you mean.
     
  24. Queen6 macrumors 604

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    My understanding is he/she wants delete "Groove" from W10, how I think it works is you have to assign another application to be the default music player, then you can uninstall Groove. W10 will not allow default applications to be uninstalled for obvious reasons.

    I may be wrong as I tend to stick with the default applications as they are generally easier on the battery and present less issues.

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    read it the 5th.......can i delete the main music app on windows and run foobar music app instead?
     

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