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Timepass said:
Oh I dont disagree with you on the fact that it would be nice but I dont think it should count agaist them for verson count since they are force to do it that way.
And it not like Quicktime and iTunes did not try to take full control over all my media files on my computer. iTunes I didnt mind so much. Quicktime I hated it and having to go though all the trouble to undo it. I hate Quicktime for anything but the web.

You can fix that quite easily. Download VLC. Get Info on a movie file. Change the "Open With..." box to read "VLC" and choose the button under it ("Change All"). Magic! QuickTime fixed! You'll just have to do that for the various movie containers, but eventually you'll have fixed them all. There even may be a preference in VLC to do that...
Linkety to VLC.
 
Mechcozmo said:
You can fix that quite easily. Download VLC. Get Info on a movie file. Change the "Open With..." box to read "VLC" and choose the button under it ("Change All"). Magic! QuickTime fixed! You'll just have to do that for the various movie containers, but eventually you'll have fixed them all. There even may be a preference in VLC to do that...
Linkety to VLC.
oh I know but it a pain in the rear to put up with and something I shouldnt have to do.
 
Timepass said:
oh I know but it a pain in the rear to put up with and something I shouldnt have to do.

Could you elaborate? You have an easy workaround... you have a different situation than on Windows... you don't have that big of an issue to deal with...
 
Mechcozmo said:
Could you elaborate? You have an easy workaround... you have a different situation than on Windows... you don't have that big of an issue to deal with...


Oh it an easy way to work around. it just bother some to take care of it since you are talking about 5+ different file formats Quicktime will take control over (and that just cover vidoe formates. Does not count many of the non video files). Mostly it because I dont find them all until I want to open that file and I see a Quicktime icon instead of the icon to the program I want to use normally either WMP Classic (not really made by microsoft but it the common name for it) or WMP on the XP box.
It just takes a me right clicking, then saying choose program, then clicking always use this program.

It mostly just a bothersome task I rather not have to do. Also Quick times not the only program that does that. In fact most programs do it and dont give me the opition while installing to pick and choose the file types I want to give it control over. Quicktime one of the worse, not the worse I have seen so far. That would be ATI media player stuff. WMP is one of the better programs out there for choosing during the install and so far I think winamp is the best and the easiest to do at any time.

But like you said you have to do it for each file type and that just extra work to have to do. Something I would rather control while installing
 
Mechcozmo said:
Slightly old news... can't believe Microsoft is going to go through with this. Plus, what about 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista? Does that make 16 total, or will they have the 32 and 64 versions on the same disk?

Actually at the moment you have all 8 versions on the single DVD and depending on what serial code you put in it will install different versions. You pay for the license.
 
WildCowboy said:
I'm looking forward to the "Making Of" bonus features...


i'm thinking that it may be titled the same as the online blog for Clerks II..

"A Disaster in the Making"..

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;)
 
Ok M$ now has stated the finally list of verson of Vista.

There will be 4 verson (and in Eurp the 2 N's plus the other 4) on store shelves
Home Basic
Home Premium
Bussiness Edition
Ultimate

Enterprise is being release ONLY to companies with who have PCs covered by Microsoft Software Assurance or a Microsoft Enterprise Agreement.

There is an Enterprise verson of XP out there as well (basicly it XP pro with changes for IT stuff and IT installing).


Now OSX has Client and Sever. They dont have a need for Enterprise because no one really has access to huge networks. But closes OSX is one of the releases that have unlimited licsences of the OS.

Right now you have family pack. and unlimited (unlimited I dont believe you can buy off the store shelves. That more like enterprise edition)

Enterprise is just a term used to cover huge networks. For example there is enterprise verson of Office. My XP computer runs off the enterprise verson of Symantic corp I got though my school. Enterprise is for large networks only and most major software has enterprise versons. Biggest diffences is it will lack activation and have a little more IT side access to it.

Starter is not even carriing the vista name. It for countries where pirating is rampade to give them a cheap alternative. At least M$ is trying help get pirating under control. They cannt really bring down the price of the software that low with out people every where else in the world crying out in flames. It would be like 3rd counties getting tiger legelly for 5 bucks while you in have to pay 100 bucks for it. But then again because of how OSX and Macs are tied together I dont think those people even can afford to get a mac. Dirt cheap computers are sold to them at a huge loss at well to help them getting better.


Some it all up 4 verson of Vista are coming out.

here is the press release from M$
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/feb06/02-26WinVistaProductsPR.mspx
 
This is quite retarded - and this has been since confirmed, of course.

Can you say, "Customer Confusion"?

aricher said:
Oops:

http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=15835&hed=Vista+Versions+Leaked

Wow - nothing like releasing EIGHT versions of the same operating system. Makes me wonder how much is stripped out of the low-cost versions:

" The versions include Windows Starter 2007, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Home Premium, and Windows Vista Ultimate...

In addition, there will be “N” versions of Windows Vista Home Basic and Windows Vista Home."
 
^ Is that definitely the original Vista theme? It looks like a skin. Stardock or something.
 
I think the big thing I have garnered from this is that Home Basic wont have the full Vista inteface... Aero Glass or whatever it is called. I personally find that astonishing.
 
Project said:
I think the big thing I have garnered from this is that Home Basic wont have the full Vista inteface... Aero Glass or whatever it is called. I personally find that astonishing.

agreed that is the largest shocker for me.
As for others not so much. Because it following a lot of the office formate.

Home Premium looks a lot like XP media edition to me.
Ultimate is a lot like XP pro to me.

The idea of gearing and opitmizing the OS for there different uses I think it a good idea. Just how they are marketing it the thing I dont like.
The idea is good in theroy and if done right could be really good. How M$ is doing it not good.
 
i don't know what you guys are complaining about. right now, microsoft already sells more than 8 versions of windows (the list doesn't include oem or non-x86 versions):

* xp starter
* xp home
* xp home n
* xp media center
* xp pro
* xp pro n
* xp pro x64
* xp tablet
* xp embedded (automtive, point of sale)
* media center
* server 2003 (small business server, web edition, standard, enterprise, datacenter, compute cluster, and storage server)
* windows ce
* windows mobile

are consumers confused now? of course not, because right now they usually either have the choice of xp home or xp pro. with vista, there's practically just one more choice: ultimate.
 
That's so rediculously complicated. As if there weren't enough problems with OS compatibilities. 7 or 8 different versions of the same OS? Jeez. That's just idiotic.
 
what my windows loving friends dont seem to realise is that OS X only needs 1 version......they asked whether i had the pro version or the home version of "oh, ess ex" grrrr.....

8 versions? confuzing as hell i think.


S
 
jhu said:
i don't know what you guys are complaining about. right now, microsoft already sells more than 8 versions of windows (the list doesn't include oem or non-x86 versions):

umm, yes, your list does include non-x86 versions...

jhu said:
* xp embedded (automtive, point of sale)
* windows ce
* windows mobile
 
macOSX-tastic said:
what my windows loving friends dont seem to realise is that OS X only needs 1 version......they asked whether i had the pro version or the home version of "oh, ess ex" grrrr.....

8 versions? confuzing as hell i think.


S

like i said, ms already sells more than 8 versions. also there are two verions of os x: standard and server.
 
jhu said:
like i said, ms already sells more than 8 versions. also there are two verions of os x: standard and server.


btw you double listed one of them
XP media cetner and Media center are the same OS.


Reason you make be thinking 2 is because you have heard it talk about using both terms.
Also btw OS X is also sold OEM just you cannt buy it because apple is the OEM. When you buy an Mac from apple the OS is OEM. Just the only diffences is OEM verson gets include on MS for point of sale because there are more OEM builders for M$ based system than in Apple. It cuts down on the raw cost of the OS by quite a bit.

Also windows 2k3 server and XP are not the same OS. They are entirerly different OS and should not be listed together.
 
One thing people need to rememeber minus in Eurp law that force the N versons. There will only be 4 verson of Vista on store shelves for people buy.

Only 4 version can be bought online.

Enterprise and starter you will not be able to buy in a store or though Online.

So the basic fact is there are really only 4 verson. Max of 6 if you want to count N (which I dont count as another box since it forced on them).

Now I still say 4 is to many for confusing customers. I would rather there be at most 2 on store shelves.
 
Timepass said:
Now OSX has Client and Sever. They dont have a need for Enterprise because no one really has access to huge networks. But closes OSX is one of the releases that have unlimited licsences of the OS.

OS X is already set up for some pretty large networks. ARD, local update servers, etc.

And I think we'll start seeing ads in Windows... "Want to change this? Buy Home Premium NOW!"
 
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