mSATA for original PB 17 " quest

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  1. G4fanboy, May 10, 2018
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    G4fanboy macrumors regular

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    The original HDD on the oldest 17" in the club is 4200 rpm. Slow when you are used to 7200 or 5400 rpm drives.

    Did anyone on the club used a 44 pins to mSATA ? I am thinking in something like this
    https://www.amazon.es/Pinzhi-Adaptador-convertidor-ordenador-portátil/dp/B0767MJ14Z/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525976736&sr=8-2&keywords=44+pin+mSATA
    That is cheaper than
    https://www.amazon.es/Kalea-Informa...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=1C66C6SD15V5YKQWSXHW

    that sells as a 2.5 solution.

    instead of a native 44 pins SSD or a Disk On Module or the $$$ OWC alternative

    They ask for 3.3 volts mSATA drives.

    On MacOS9Lives! they recommend the OWC solution, saying they (mSata adapters) run hot.

    http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,3912.0.html

    Also in Europe the 128 Gig OWC 44 pins modell is a unicorn, double the price of a Intel machine.

    My focus is 120-128 SSD speed on the elusive A1013.
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    https://www.amazon.es/TCSUNBOW-Unidad-estado-máquina-Máquina/dp/B01N4J7XVK/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1525978653&sr=1-3&keywords=msata&th=1

    https://www.amazon.es/Zheino-Intern...TF8&qid=1525978653&sr=1-7&keywords=msata&th=1

    I do not work for amazon...

    This seem cheaper and only limits the target memories dimmensions
    https://www.ebay.es/itm/1x-Nuevo-mS...793607?hash=item3d1534e707:g:incAAOSwI3RW8mQc
     
  2. dbdjre0143 macrumors regular

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    I can't speak for the A1013 specifically but I had a 128GB mSATA SSD in one of the cheap eBay enclosures in my A1139 (DLSD 17" PB) before it died. Worked and fit great. When that laptop died, I transferred it into my 15" I got to replace it, where it is still in daily use now (has been in it for about 5 months).
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    This is the seller I bought my adapter from, though they've gone up a few dollars since I got mine:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-to-2...528432?hash=item464f342630:g:mf4AAOSw4vJasHra

    MODS: not my auction
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    And this is the mSATA SSD I'm using (currently out of stock)
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LY2NAHS/
     
  3. AphoticD, May 10, 2018
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    AphoticD macrumors 68000

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    I have successfully installed KingSpec mSATA SSDs into 5 different PowerPC portables;

    Pismo 400 - 32GB in JM20330 adapter
    iBook clamshell 366 - 32GB in JM20330 adapter
    PowerBook G4 12” 1.5 - 64GB in Lindy adapter
    PowerBook G4 17” 1.67 (SLSD) - 64GB in Addonics adapter
    PowerBook G4 Titanium 867 - 32GB in JM20330 adapter

    I also put an OWC Mercury Legacy 60GB SSD (44pin) in a PowerBook G4 15” 1.5ghz.

    None of these have run noticeably hotter than their previous hard drives. And in the case of the iBook, the noisy old 3GB HDD ran hotter than the new SSD.

    I don’t think the low speed ATA buses can really draw enough throughput from the SSDs to generate the kind of heat you’ll get at full (6Gbit) speeds in a SATA 3 equipped Intel Mac.

    TL;DR - I would take the reports of SSDs running hotter with a grain of salt. Maybe specific brands do, but from my experience it’s nothing to worry about.

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    The second adapter you posted looks similar to the JM20330 chipset adapters I’ve used. But you’ll want to double check this as there may be similar numbered chipsets which aren’t compatible.

    Check out all of our different configurations in the “Post your SSD benchmarks” thread.
     
  4. Dronecatcher macrumors 68030

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    Isn't the heat issue with some SSDs down to the voltage transformer? Something about stepping down 5 to 3V - or vice versa?
     
  5. Jack Neill macrumors regular

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    I have been looking at ways to ditch the 4200 80GB in my G4 1.25 15". I bought a SATA adapter but it didn't fit with a regular 2.5 drive. I ordered a DVD tray caddy that I can put a SATA drive in. I have a 5400 500GB I want to put in it. I am also going to either grab a PATA SSD or go the mSata route, but with a KingSpec PATA 64 being 54 on Amazon I think thats the cheapest route to go.
     
  6. G4fanboy, Jun 2, 2018
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    Just ordered them both. 33 Euros for the adaptor + 57 for the mSATA.
    Also one of these [​IMG]
    for 3 Euros, just in case I want tho use that drive in SATA or the 17" rejects the drive.
     
  7. bobesch macrumors 65816

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    That red mSATA-IDE-converter is fine - I have several of those ones and they work flawless.
    As a result from another discussion they should also have one of the most advanced voltage conversion (sorry, but I cannot remember that thread - but I disassembled one converter to take a picture of the hidden side showing the chipset. Wait ... it's here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/msata-vs-sata-drive-in-a-g4-powerbook.2027276/#post-24195525)
     

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