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Figured so. Another question for you... did you ever negotiate on price or price match with Best Buy, for example?
I was a former Service Manager, and price matching was extremely rare. It basically came down to whether or not the store would still be making a profit. Many times, when trying to match Best Buy or Amazon, the store would lose money if they did. This is because the profit margin is extremely slim as Apple does not sell their products at much of a markdown.
 
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No it won't, especially not when games nowadays weigh 100 something GB, which is ridiculous for digital downloads. Physical media FTW.
I'm sure someone else has already said it, but with Fiber becoming widespread along with cellular companies soon offering gigabit speeds, 100gb downloads will be nothing.

I'm really happy about this. Maybe now Apple will open a retail store in the premiere shopping area near my house.
 
Look them up on Glassdoor.com. It's not often you see a company so thoroughly hated by its own employees.

Allow me to add that they do NOT represent most independent Apple-authorized resellers and service providers.* From what I hear, SimplyMac was fine when it was a small business with couple of locations in the Salt Lake City area. It's when they got bought out by Game Stop and turned into a national chain that things went down the toilet FAST.

(* I may be biased by the fact that I own one.)
Very similar to Gamestop buying Spring Mobile the gobbling up all the smaller 4-10 store authorized retailers. Spring Mobile is probably the worst company anyone could ever work for
 
I'm sure someone else has already said it, but with Fiber becoming widespread along with cellular companies soon offering gigabit speeds, 100gb downloads will be nothing.

I'm really happy about this. Maybe now Apple will open a retail store in the premiere shopping area near my house.

I would not assume that once Simply Mac leaves an area, that Apple will be in any hurry to replace it with an Apple Store. Many Simply Mac locations were in cities that Apple would not put a store in.
 
My kids have a PS4. Haven't bought a physical game in over a year now. We download everything. Mostly because there is no way for them to lose the discs anymore.

Man I wish I could do that with Xbox or Nintendo. I just have a hard time buying digital when digital are always more expensive. Sure, they have sales, but even the sales are sad. Take FarCry Primal Apex. Best I have seen if for digital is $26 on black friday. It was $15 at Target and $13 for Steam. I get the lost/damaged disk argument, but its to close to twice the price for me.
 
The Mac Store in Portland was really nice. Before i moved to SLC, they turned into a Simply Mac. The one near my place now i visited once, and it was nice, and they had some accessories for my MBP that Apple didn't have.
It is too bad that these little guys sell out, then the new stores get shut down.

I wonder if The Mac Store could restart? Unless they signed some sort of contract?
 
Yeah! Physical media is great. You copy the 100G straight from the disks, then wait for the 90G of updates to download.
It kind of sucked when someone popped Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 into their PS3 for the first time, only to be told that they had to install 2.6 GB of stuff onto their hd first.

OTOH, it's not all like that... I'm currently playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 for Wii... no installation nor downloads there :cool:


Besides, GameStop is still making a killing buying back used games and selling them for higher.
 
The local Simply Mac is the only authorized iPhone service location within 100 miles. It will be a shame if they close. It's a 4.5 hour round trip to the nearest Genius Bar.
 
Gamestop's days are numbered. Digital distribution will take over within 5 years...
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Apple is a Mess sad to here . their retail locations really like going to a clothing store these days .
SimplyMac is NOT owned by Apple. They are a reseller.
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Yeah because no one owns external hard drives and we live in a world where people would rather put 100CDs in their house rather than getting 4x3TB HDDs. /s
Agree. But for those of us under the Comcast 1TB data cap, it sucks!
 
Not surprising at all. I wanted some memory for my iMac. They had what I wanted in stock for a highly inflated price. The sales people said they could not just sell me the memory and I take it home and install it. I had to bring my iMac in and have their Apple Technician install the memory for $40. The tech wasn't even there. So they want $40 for 1 minute of work. I wish I got paid like that.
 
This is part of Apple's consolidation of control of its products.

ie. No one else, but Apple is allowed to service Apple products (at least according to Apple).

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Of cause, one needs to remember that many third parties (non-Apple Store/non-AASP) can perform repairs for about half of what Apple charges.


That's honestly not true. AASPs are a very valuable part of the service network, and there have been recent upgrades and investments in alternative service options (read: Not Apple Retail), including AASPs.
 
I miss independent stores. There’s no margin in Macs so they have to survive on peripheral sales.
 
Not surprising at all. I wanted some memory for my iMac. They had what I wanted in stock for a highly inflated price. The sales people said they could not just sell me the memory and I take it home and install it. I had to bring my iMac in and have their Apple Technician install the memory for $40. The tech wasn't even there. So they want $40 for 1 minute of work. I wish I got paid like that.

Why didn't you walk into any other computer store and buy the memory there?
 
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Quad density Blu Ray

Most people don't have the privilege of broadband internet access so there will be a need for physical media for a very long time.

I would theorize that far more people have the "privilege" broadband internet of at least 30-50Mbps right now than will ever have the "privilege" of owning a quad density Blu-ray compatible drive on there computer setup...

Over 75% of the American population has broadband internet connections. Source

This number is event higher for Western Europe, closer to 84%. In the Far East, there are more active broadband connections than there are people, meaning that the broadband adoption rate in Japan, for example, is actually greater than 100%.

China has the highest number of active broadband connections in the world. Central Asia, as well as Central and East Africa, as well as South America do not have 50% broadband adoption yet, these are areas where the vast majority of the countries are still considered "developing" or classified as 2nd or 3rd World countries...BUT I don't think that's what you are talking about, right? Since the object of this little side discussion is games weighing in at 100+GB

In addition the adoption rate of broadband level internet access is continuing to grow, while the number of people owning DVD or Blu-ray drives within a computer context has been steadily declining since the early 2000's...
 
This is annoying. A couple years ago, Simply Mac bought up a small chain local to me that had been an Apple Authorized Reseller since the late 1970s. I was worried that Simply Mac would drive them in to the ground.

Thankfully, the mail-order arm of that chain still exists independently: PowerMax.
 
i get that lots of people don't have super high speed connections, but time will take care of that.

You do know that you're talking about DECADES there, do you?

Here in Germany, the development came to a complete halt in the early 2000s. For over ten years now, 1.5 to 2 Mbps have been the absolute maximum available wherever I lived (and I moved quite a bit in those years).

So pardon my skepticism, but no, time does not seem to take care of that. Besides, it's absolutely cynical to bring up this statement as an argument when you're comfortably sitting behind a high speed connection while others don't have that luxury.
 
I would theorize that far more people have the "privilege" broadband internet of at least 30-50Mbps right now than will ever have the "privilege" of owning a quad density Blu-ray compatible drive on there computer setup.

Perhaps, but until data caps are lifted downloading large files will cause problems. The model of cloud based media is no doubt the futures but there are technical and economic hurdles to be overcome first. The model of using media for the main files and smaller downloadable content is going to be around for a while. As for drives and computers, gaming on PCs projected to continue to decline (Source) in favor of consoles, tablets, and smartphones so the lack of higher density drives on computers is less of an issue.

In addition the adoption rate of broadband level internet access is continuing to grow, while the number of people owning DVD or Blu-ray drives within a computer context has been steadily declining since the early 2000's...

First, I'm not sure what PEW means by broadband, their reports seem to suggest anything beyond dialup.

At any rate, it appears, from PEW, that growth has started to slow and may have begun to plateau as the reported in 2015 (Source) although the % recovered a bit in 2016. Several factors seem to contribute to the plateauing:

Cost of Broadband (Source)

The shift to the use of smartphones for internet access, per PEW:

"As the adoption of traditional broadband service has slowed in recent years, a growing share of Americans now use smartphones as their primary means of online access at home. Today just over one-in-ten American adults are “smartphone-only” internet users – meaning they own a smartphone, but do not have traditional home broadband service."

which right now seems to have plateaued at 10% of internet users but if it grows then d/l games will to be very popular.

The real challenge is ISPs will want to capture some of the revenue from large downloads rather than merely be a pipe for content. Data caps are a way to do that; right now they strike at cord cutters but if game d/ls become commonplace they'll be in the sights as well.
 
You do know that you're talking about DECADES there, do you?

Here in Germany, the development came to a complete halt in the early 2000s. For over ten years now, 1.5 to 2 Mbps have been the absolute maximum available wherever I lived (and I moved quite a bit in those years).

So pardon my skepticism, but no, time does not seem to take care of that. Besides, it's absolutely cynical to bring up this statement as an argument when you're comfortably sitting behind a high speed connection while others don't have that luxury.


"decades" = time.

also SpaceX is planning on launching gigabit satellite internet that has a lower latency than traditional ISPs. target launch is in 2019. it will blanket the entire world

so, my point still stands. time will take care of it either way.

you're mixing your frustration with objective reasoning. is germany going to be stuck with 1-2Mbps FOREVER? absolutely not.
 
"decades" = time.

also SpaceX is planning on launching gigabit satellite internet that has a lower latency than traditional ISPs. target launch is in 2019. it will blanket the entire world

so, my point still stands. time will take care of it either way.

you're mixing your frustration with objective reasoning. is germany going to be stuck with 1-2Mbps FOREVER? absolutely not.
The question is how much time and at what cost? SpaceX hasn't given a target date beyond mentioning a potential 2019 date in technical docs. The also plan to design and build their own satellites. I'd say 2019 is optimistic at best. Latency is expected to becaround that of wired connections but better than current satellite performance.
 
I've never been in a Simply Mac - can anyone comment on the quality of their stores/service?

Actualy worked for them, ran one of the stores. Great when we were privately owned. Still some great stores out there, however they grew too fast, lost the original leadership, and with the growth became very unprofitable. Looks like they are cutting the stores losing money, they didnt lose a contract with apple
 
Apple is a Mess sad to here . their retail locations really like going to a clothing store these days .
Apple agreements with independents so bad they are being driven out of business. Apple thinks they can do it themselves. They have forgotten how they got where they are. Independents championed Apple growth with customers, no longer.
 
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