Multitasking iPad=Fall. Why?

DotCom2

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What do you guys think is the reason we iPad owners have to wait until Fall to get OS 4.0 when the iPhone gets it this summer since they run the same OS? That seems so weird to me. :confused:
 

pvmacguy

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Because there are subtle changes to the os to be able for the iPad to use. That's why iPhone is on 3.1.3 and we are currently on 3.2. So for. Os 4 it I'll most likely be iPhone 4.0 iPad 4.1 or something along those lines. And in all honesty it's not that big of a deal to wait, most of e features in 4.0 aren't mind blowing to not be able to wait.
 

normwood

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What do you guys think is the reason we iPad owners have to wait until Fall to get OS 4.0 when the iPhone gets it this summer since they run the same OS? That seems so weird to me. :confused:
Plain and simple. So you will want to buy an iPhone that will work with 4.0.

Steve
 

Bodhi395

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I agree its just probably more complicated to integrate into the ipad hardware, since the ipad itself is more complicated than the iphone.

There also is a theory that it is taking longer because the ipad will get extra features, although I'm not too sure that will be true. It would be nice though if the multitasking for the ipad included a way to have multiple windows open at the same time for you to view them. Or a more fully functioning file system. Or a way to print!
 

DotCom2

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Because there are subtle changes to the os to be able for the iPad to use. That's why iPhone is on 3.1.3 and we are currently on 3.2. So for. Os 4 it I'll most likely be iPhone 4.0 iPad 4.1 or something along those lines. And in all honesty it's not that big of a deal to wait, most of e features in 4.0 aren't mind blowing to not be able to wait.
Well multitasking IS mind blowing for me at least.

I agree its just probably more complicated to integrate into the ipad hardware, since the ipad itself is more complicated than the iphone.

There also is a theory that it is taking longer because the ipad will get extra features, although I'm not too sure that will be true. It would be nice though if the multitasking for the ipad included a way to have multiple windows open at the same time for you to view them. Or a more fully functioning file system. Or a way to print!
We can only hope I guess!

Plain and simple. So you will want to buy an iPhone that will work with 4.0.

Steve
Yeah, although multitasking on the iPhone is not as essential as it is on the iPad for me.
 

DotCom2

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Unfortunately, this is probably correct. Apple doesn't want to cannibalize new iPhone sales.
I have an iPhone 3GS. From what I understand, 4.0 will fully function on this model correct?
 

jaw04005

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I think it’s more a question of engineering resources at the moment. We all know a new iPhone is due out in June/July. That’s their focus right now.

Gruber noted that the team that developed the iPad was kept in secret away from the iPhone OS team. iPhone OS 4.0 was well into development before the iPad was even announced.

At some point, they’ll get caught up and hopefully software updates will then remain concurrent.

I have an iPhone 3GS. From what I understand, 4.0 will fully function on this model correct?
The currently announced features of 4.0 will fully function on the 3GS. Of course, Apple reserves the right to introduce something new that will be a part of 4.0 which won’t run on the 3GS because of hardware, software or marketing choices (iChat with front facing cameras, etc).
 

tuna

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It's not harder to implement on the ipad, I don't know where u guys are getting that bthe ipad has the exact same internals as the iPhone 3gs and likely the next gen iPhone. I would guess that's it's taking longer because (1) they are implementing ipad specific software features that will make it a less iPod touch like and a little more useable in it's larger form factor, and (2) because they are timing it to coincide with some hardware revision, whether it's a small price drop only or maybe it gets some new features like front camera.
 

darngooddesign

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Plain and simple. So you will want to buy an iPhone that will work with 4.0.

Steve
I doubt the iPad really cannibalizes sales from the iPhone. Its too large to be a competing device. Not to mention, if you really want an iPhone, waiting two or so months isn't going to stop you.

Fair is fair, you guys got a new OS first so now you have to wait while we get an OS first.
 

admanimal

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That makes no sense at all.

They're keeping the OS4 update off the iPad for an extra 3 months to help iPhone sales? Haha, no.
What he said.

Why is it so hard for people to grasp that the last significant iPhone/iPod Touch update of iPhone OS (3.1) was in September, whereas the first version of the OS for an entirely new device (i.e. the iPad) was a week ago. See that huge time difference there? Even though the OS's have a lot in common across devices, it obviously takes a good amount of time to test and refine it on another device, especially the UI.
 

r0k

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Apple rushed iPad to market. They knew the biggest news was the form factor and that a few OS mis-steps would not hurt them, unless they came late to a party somebody else had started (like netbooks). Apple is managing resources and devoting their 4.0 team to the upcoming iPhone launch. They will then turn their attention to iPad. Meanwhile they can continue to sell iPads pretty much as fast as they can make them. If they start to see sales siphoned off to a competitor over something like multitasking or file handling, Apple can readjust their schedule. I don't think they will have to. While I'd rather have those things now, at least they announced that when 4.0 comes out I won't have to pay to upgrade.

While I don't like waiting any more than anyone else, I don't think I have much choice (without jailbreaking).
 

Zimmy68

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My cynical guess is that they are going to charge for the update on the iPad and don't want that bit of bad news to cloud the good press of the release.
 

PCClone

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What do you guys think is the reason we iPad owners have to wait until Fall to get OS 4.0 when the iPhone gets it this summer since they run the same OS? That seems so weird to me. :confused:
because they will be releasing a new iPad that have a camera, built in iChat and 512G of storage for $499 including 3G.
 

BruiserBear

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My cynical guess is that they are going to charge for the update on the iPad and don't want that bit of bad news to cloud the good press of the release.
It has already been made clear that iPad owners will not pay for the 4.0 update.
 

alent1234

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ipad is an itouch with a bigger screen

the iPod launch event is in September along with an updated version of iTunes and iPhone OS so Apple will probably use the event for the iPad as well. expect OS 4 in June for the new iPhone and 4.1 in September adding a few features like last year's Monocle
 

normwood

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I doubt the iPad really cannibalizes sales from the iPhone. Its too large to be a competing device. Not to mention, if you really want an iPhone, waiting two or so months isn't going to stop you.

Fair is fair, you guys got a new OS first so now you have to wait while we get an OS first.
Some of these folks think differently:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=892965

In my particular case....once my 3g iPad shows....I will seldom use my iPhone for anything other than making calls and texting on occasion. I already carry a man-bag (Timbuk2) so I intend to carry my iPad virtually everywhere.

I have actually tossed around the idea of getting a dumb phone when my iPhone (3g) contract is up in June and get the $30/month unlimited data plan on my iPad. The only thing that is holding me back is that I LOVE the way my iPhone deals with contacts and the address book.

Based on the thread I referenced....I am not alone.

Steve
 

normwood

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ipad is an itouch with a bigger screen

the iPod launch event is in September along with an updated version of iTunes and iPhone OS so Apple will probably use the event for the iPad as well. expect OS 4 in June for the new iPhone and 4.1 in September adding a few features like last year's Monocle
1) No such thing as an "iTouch".
2) No, the iPad is not an iPod Touch with a bigger screen.
3) Capital letters at the beginning of sentences are recommended....and preferred by most.

Steve
 

PCClone

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ipad is an itouch with a bigger screen

the iPod launch event is in September along with an updated version of iTunes and iPhone OS so Apple will probably use the event for the iPad as well. expect OS 4 in June for the new iPhone and 4.1 in September adding a few features like last year's Monocle
What???? The iPad is an iTouch with a bigger screen? Why is this important information just coming out????
 

sfwalter

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In my opinion, the developers who worked on 3.2 were stuck in a building in Cupertino along with the rest of the iPad team. They worked on 3.2 in seclusion. The 3.2 team is now being brought into the 4.0 fold. The first task of theirs is to merge the 3.2 codebase into 4.0.

In short we have to wait because of Apple's secretive nature.

At this point us devs can't even target iPad apps for 4.x, probably because a build isn't available yet.
 

darngooddesign

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1) No such thing as an "iTouch".
Yes there is. Its acceptable to call the iPod Touch the iTouch in the same way its acceptable to call the MacBook Pro MBP. Or in your signature's case, its acceptable to call the 16 Gigiabyte iPhone 16gig. Looking further at your signature, there is no "nano" or "shuffle", but there is an iPod nano and an iPod shuffle.
2) No, the iPad is not an iPod Touch with a bigger screen.
Yes it is
3) Capital letters at the beginning of sentences are recommended....and preferred by most.
You did not capitalize the "B" in MacBook in your signature.
 

uberamd

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Apple users are the most impatient users. We don't have multitasking for YEARS, and when they finally announce it people get all crabby because it will take a while to roll out to our devices. Some of you are impossible to satisfy!

Compare Android copy-paste to iPhone copy-paste. The iPhone copy and paste is insanely better than Androids implementation. Expect the same from multitasking, and thus it is worth the wait.