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MWNY: G4 will be at 1.5 Ghz

i thnk mwny will be the first time since last mwny when it's a really exciting time for powermac users.... it excites me. even though i'm not buying now. i know the further we progress, the better the computer that i will eventually buy will be... word
 
I'd wet my pants if the low end powermac was a duel 1.4 Ghz G4, and the high end was a single processor G5 at 1.5Ghz.

Honey, can you bring me a towel??
 
iMac Speed Bumps?

If they are updating the profesional machines, then why wouldnt they upgrade the consumer version?

imagin a 1 ghz g4 imac with ddr RAM, and a 17 inch flat screen!
 
Originally posted by Macmaniac
I Hope it is 1.5ghz, DP would be so nice! LETs hope for DDR ram and 266mhz system bus!
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If they had done that with the dual 1Ghz I'd have that and not be buying in July...:rolleyes:

NOw I must buy.....so they'd better have DDR and a faster bus! SHEESH!
 
The Real problem

Originally posted by sjs
If in fact we get:

1.4 or 1.5 ghz
true DDR
faster bus
Jaguar
Quartz Extreme

isn't it likely that the minimum speed boost would be well over 50% and maybe approaching 100% at times?

PS If all this comes to pass, we are probably looking at slightly higher prices than today's pro models?
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Has anyone noticed that OS X still is slow as crap in programs like Flash MX? I think the BIGGEST bottleneck is the OS... so... all the read of us should benefit just as much or more from Jagwire.

I never understand the comments of 'shouldn't X Mhz be enough...' Nothing is EVER enough. Speed, speed, speed. With the advent of distributed computing extra cycles are usable cycles.

Anway, Hardware upgrades are nice, but we need to see more effort by Apple to speed up the software. Making us wait until the Summer for 10.2 sucks. (Some of us out there actually have to do work in the intervening months...)

OS X is usable on my dual 450 at work, but barely so on Classic and even some native programs like Flash. Unfortunately for me my vid cards are only Rage pros... sigh. Hopefully Apple has found other ways to optimize X besides just Quartz Extreme.
 
slipjack: i feel ya man. have you played with jaguar yet? apple definitely needs several months to get this thing working. its VERY beta right now. and developers need the time to get their apps working on it. that being said, certain parts of the os (even without QE) are running much faster.


a 1.5ghz rumor really isnt out of line with the other rumors we have been hearing. in fact all the detailed rumors out there state quite clearly that they are looking at chips between 1.2 and 1.5 ghz for the top model. in the end most of the rumors have come out at the end saying the 1.2 or 1.4 ghz models are most likely, but they still acknowledge the 1.5 as a possibility. what isnt clear is whether the writers of the articles (this one included) have been told 1.2, 1.4, or 1.5 is the most likley choice or whether they have made these decisions themselves as writers. i can easily image situations in which the sources simply state that chips are being samples at 1.2, 1.4, and 1.5 ghz and the writer then decides to say 1.2 or 1.4 to be safe or chooses to say 1.5 to be shocking.

also of interest is whether the FSB will be designed like the xserve's board. will it support ddr at full speed but keep the rest of the bus at 133mhz? if they chose this route (as they might do since this is what we already know they can do) then some of you might be up for some disappointment.

if we see a case redesign we might think they are following the B/WG3 route, where the redesign precedes a chip change. work out all the bugs on the tried and true chip and then 6-9 months later drop your new chip in the new case.

but any thought of a 5th generation chip reminds me of recent reports that apple has dropped moto's g5 and begun meeting with ibm to design its next chip. if this is true, then work could just be getting underway at ibm making any release in the near future unlikely. still ibm has a lot of chips already in the pipeline and has been a proven innovator, perhaps they could indeed crank out a brand new 5th generation chip in a years time, seems unlikley though.

anyway ive got a small "situation" on my hands so i best be attending to other things, so ill just ask that some sane minds come in hear and link everyone up with the various past rumors i mentioned.
 
Re: The Real problem

Originally posted by slipjack


Has anyone noticed that OS X still is slow as crap in programs like Flash MX? I think the BIGGEST bottleneck is the OS... so... all the read of us should benefit just as much or more from Jagwire.

I never understand the comments of 'shouldn't X Mhz be enough...' Nothing is EVER enough. Speed, speed, speed. With the advent of distributed computing extra cycles are usable cycles.

Anway, Hardware upgrades are nice, but we need to see more effort by Apple to speed up the software. Making us wait until the Summer for 10.2 sucks. (Some of us out there actually have to do work in the intervening months...)

OS X is usable on my dual 450 at work, but barely so on Classic and even some native programs like Flash. Unfortunately for me my vid cards are only Rage pros... sigh. Hopefully Apple has found other ways to optimize X besides just Quartz Extreme.
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Dude, this will be a massive, absolutely friggin huge upgrade is the rumors are right. Now that being said, no Software upgrade can be better than 400 MHZ, and DDR Memory, and a better bus. Period. Jaguar, however, is going to make it that much better. As for your 450. How much memory do you have in it. Because X.1.4 is more than useable on my iBook 600 and iMac 600.
 
Originally posted by daRAT
Will the current 1 ghz chip be phased out? Or will Apple do away with the 800 and 900 mhz chip?

Cost is going to be the big factor in purchasing a new tower. Maybe there will be a "fire sale" on the current dualie models?:D
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Definitely. Apple is already offering rebates, which suggests in and of itself that there will be new machines. My $ is on the 1.5 GHz beast. Have a nice day. ;) :D
 
At MWNY

"Hello, Mac fans! As you know, I'm Steve Jobs, and I've got a TON of exciting stuff to introduce today. New hardware, new software, new companies joining us in pushing the Mac to new levels. To start, I want to get the not-so-good news out of the way so we can focus on the good news: contrary to what you've likely read on Mac rumor sites far and wide, we've been less than fortunate regarding getting our G4 chips up to speed. So I'd like to announce our new models, starting at 933 MHz... the midrange is dual 1 GHz... and our new top-of-the-line machine at dual 1.15 GHz. Yes, I know it's a disappointment, and I'm sorry. There was also a small... mishap on our main production floor about a week ago, so we don't expect to be shipping in volume for another 2-3 weeks. Let's not linger on this any longer. Moving on, Jagwire WILL in fact be released TODAY!! As you know it's packed with new features, it's much faster, and for you developers in the crowd, you can now add a brushed aluminum interface to your apps with the click of a button! But wait there's more...."

Later...
"... so that just about wraps up what we have for you today. Oh wait... there's one more thing. I was just kidding about those PowerMacs. We are in fact ready to ship single 1.1 GHz, single 1.4 GHz, and dual 1.5 GHz machines TODAY, complete with DDR RAM and a totally revamped motherboard to match!..."

Oh Uncle Steve...
 
this is really great!!!! :D

I just wish I could afford to go out and buy one...:(

the way I'm starting to see it, though, is we're going to be buying a new system here at work at some point this year...

maybe I'll have a 1.5 Ghz?? :D
 
Originally posted by eyelikeart
this is really great!!!! :D

I just wish I could afford to go out and buy one...:(

the way I'm starting to see it, though, is we're going to be buying a new system here at work at some point this year...

maybe I'll have a 1.5 Ghz?? :D
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Man, that would be great for you. Hey, maybe I could talk Darin into donating one to my wifes education.... It would be a tax write off :D

They won't be 1.5's though they will be 1.4's. Unless MOTO has managed to pull off a magic trick in less than two months.
 
Oh, don't worry about one thing. They will be ready right away. They have learned from the iMac, and they already have these things stocking up somewhere. They will be anounced, they will rock, and they will start selling in droves that day. :D
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac
Oh, don't worry about one thing. They will be ready right away. They have learned from the iMac, and they already have these things stocking up somewhere. They will be anounced, they will rock, and they will start selling in droves that day. :D
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oh yeah? is this a fact and you've got proof? Or just your intuition?


IF its a fact I love you....if not, i hope you're right
 
Originally posted by teabgs


oh yeah? is this a fact and you've got proof? Or just your intuition?


IF its a fact I love you....if not, i hope you're right
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I can't really get into how I know. Just trust me on this. I know. You see, I am really Steve Jobs, and I have been coming here for quite a while now. I always enjoyed reading the threads, and it was MacRumors that inspired us on our homepage before the iMac was released.

NOT!!!

Anyway, it is going to be amazing. Just look at all the signs. Rebates on everything, all Hardware lines have already been refreshed including the iPod. The stage is set for new PowerMac, a digital device, X.2, and other software. Look for iTunes 3, and a version of the iPod for Windows.
 
Now, we just need discounts, and big time discounts before MWNY.

In the event of a release of a 1.5GHz PowerMac, the current line of PowerMacs would decrease in value up to 30%. The Dual 1GHz would sell for maybe $2,000. So, Apple should start offering discounts on PowerMac purchases, and more than the $300 that they currently offer.
 
true the signs all point in the right direction but lets not get too excited. Moto can F it up any time....

So until it IS released nothing is set....
 
Originally posted by teabgs
true the signs all point in the right direction but lets not get too excited. Moto can F it up any time....

So until it IS released nothing is set....
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You are right about that. There have been times when Apple has slated a product for release, only to have to bump it at the last minute due to Motorolla. Hopefully this will not happen on this go around though, and I doubt that it will. This MWNY is going to be huge. Way beyond the rumor sites, way beyond :D
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac


This MWNY is going to be huge. Way beyond the rumor sites, way beyond :D
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Is that even possible any more? they'd have to deliver HUGE to be way beyond a 2.4Ghz G5 and the iWalk (haha, right) and all the other stuff that floats around
 
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