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MWSF '03 Predictions
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Re: My predictions
But they have lied before. i take number 2. please!
This is what they need to be compatative with the faster 3.06 P4 and AMD athlons, should run quieter and cooler too.
But with out a new motherboard and case design I dont see it happening but pray that I am wrong.
This would be remarkable since IBM is on record as of saying not available until Late 2003 for the 970.
But they have lied before. i take number 2. please!
This is what they need to be compatative with the faster 3.06 P4 and AMD athlons, should run quieter and cooler too.
But with out a new motherboard and case design I dont see it happening but pray that I am wrong.
I predict a black turtleneck and jeans.
Oh, and an iMac speed bump and elimination of the 15" LCD model.
$100 price cuts on PowerMacs.
iMovie, iTunes, iSync updates.
No Bluetooth, portables were just updated and I believe Apple is barely making the $999 price point on iBook.
No 970s, too early.
No new devices or updates to the iPod.
Clarification of OS 9 plans (Officially Dead as of end of 2003 would be my guess.)
Oh, and an iMac speed bump and elimination of the 15" LCD model.
$100 price cuts on PowerMacs.
iMovie, iTunes, iSync updates.
No Bluetooth, portables were just updated and I believe Apple is barely making the $999 price point on iBook.
No 970s, too early.
No new devices or updates to the iPod.
Clarification of OS 9 plans (Officially Dead as of end of 2003 would be my guess.)
Wishful thinking...
1. 15" iMac gone
2. eMac 1 ghz/A05 Superdrive $1499, 1 ghz/combo $1199, low end 800mhz/combo drive $899
3. finally drop iMac G3s--eMac takes its place as lowball system
4. 17" and 19" 16:10 displays, price reductions throughout the display line, NO MORE 4:3 LCD DISPLAYS (only "all-in-one" CRTs 4:3)
5. iApp updates
6. MAJOR IBM 970 ANNOUNCEMENT: Preorders of new high-end XServes and PowerMacs available for systems shipping in June 2003 (preorder pricing $100-200 off list price)
--much faster bus speeds
--fully implemented DDR RAM
--single, dual 1.8ghz IBM 970s addressing 2/4GB RAM
--Bluetooth/Airport built in wireless
--Firewire2
--OS X native plug'n'play clustering via Gigabit Ethernet to work with any multithreaded application, similar to OS X's software RAID, with a few more customizable features
7. Speedbump G4 PMs to 1, 1.25 and 1.5 dualies at current pricing schemes until 970 machines ship in June
1. 15" iMac gone
2. eMac 1 ghz/A05 Superdrive $1499, 1 ghz/combo $1199, low end 800mhz/combo drive $899
3. finally drop iMac G3s--eMac takes its place as lowball system
4. 17" and 19" 16:10 displays, price reductions throughout the display line, NO MORE 4:3 LCD DISPLAYS (only "all-in-one" CRTs 4:3)
5. iApp updates
6. MAJOR IBM 970 ANNOUNCEMENT: Preorders of new high-end XServes and PowerMacs available for systems shipping in June 2003 (preorder pricing $100-200 off list price)
--much faster bus speeds
--fully implemented DDR RAM
--single, dual 1.8ghz IBM 970s addressing 2/4GB RAM
--Bluetooth/Airport built in wireless
--Firewire2
--OS X native plug'n'play clustering via Gigabit Ethernet to work with any multithreaded application, similar to OS X's software RAID, with a few more customizable features
7. Speedbump G4 PMs to 1, 1.25 and 1.5 dualies at current pricing schemes until 970 machines ship in June
My prediction
- new LCD-iMac & eMac running at higher clockrates
- iPod pricecut or maybe a new one (not with a bigger HD though, you can't get more than 20 Gigs in a 1.8" HD)
- Xserve RAID demo
- Bluetooth-enabled portables
- iApps update
- some big suprise
and to everybody who says they want to see PPC970's, IBM hasn't even begun producing samples fo the new processor!
- new LCD-iMac & eMac running at higher clockrates
- iPod pricecut or maybe a new one (not with a bigger HD though, you can't get more than 20 Gigs in a 1.8" HD)
- Xserve RAID demo
- Bluetooth-enabled portables
- iApps update
- some big suprise
and to everybody who says they want to see PPC970's, IBM hasn't even begun producing samples fo the new processor!
My Predictions
I think Steve will want to concentrate on the new iMacs, displays, and as usual OSX (with phase out of OS9 and all).
We will see:
What we might see:
We won't see:
I think Steve will want to concentrate on the new iMacs, displays, and as usual OSX (with phase out of OS9 and all).
We will see:
- A 1 Ghz iMac, the iMac range definitely needs more juice and a lower entry point. I think we might see a $999 low end 15" model, with 17" at mid and high range. The Geoforce 4 will also be rolled out across the range apart from on the 15" model. With a new iMac available at $999 the old G3 iMac will finally die a death.
- Updated LCD displays: price cuts plus new 19" model at $999.
- 5Gb iPod dropped, price cut on 10Gb and 20Gb (the margins on iPods are high and Apple have room to cut prices to boost sales).
- More on Rendezvous and iSync
- Updates to some iApps (iMovie, works?)
- Clarification on OS9 plus offer to tempt luddites (risks flame)
What we might see:
- Possible tweaks to Power Macs and small price cut, but no faster CPUs (that will come in March)
- Possible update of XServe and more on XRaid
- Firewire2 news/launch
We won't see:
- PPC970 or hear anything about it (any announcement would kill G4 sales)
- Updates to Powerbooks or iBooks, they've only just been updated and price reduced. The iBook is now at $999 which is very competitive.
- Colour iPods
- Apple cameras/phones/breadmakers or any hardware with entrenched encombants.
- A major new lifestyle product (That will have its own special event in the spring)
- Steve and Quark on stage together
- Steve in a white turtleneck (despite attempts by marketing to get him to match the colour scheme of Apple's hardware)
Dreams are these posts, but here goes...
MWSF
iMac 15"/800mhz/combo/133fsb/GF4 $1099
iMac 17"/933/combo/133fsb/GF4 $1399
iMac 17"/1ghz/superdrive/133fsb/GF4 $1699
eMac 800/cd [edu only] $749
eMac 800/combo $999
eMac 933/combo or superdrive $1199/$1399
Monitors - updated form factor with VESA adaptability/ADC and DVI
17" LCD 1152x870 $499
17" LCD Cinema 1440x900 $799
19-20" LCD Cinema 1600x1024 $1599
23" HD Cinema 2048x1280 $2999
Possible dual head monitor with 2-17" 1152x870 or 2-17" Cinema 1440x900 displays and single cable to connect both video lines to the normal dual head card, USB and power.
A VESA monitor mounting arm for wall or desk ala iMac arm to enhance desktop monitor offering $249
iTune 4 rendevouz/mp4
iMovie 3
iDVD enhancments
iPod drop 5gb, $50 drop on 10 and 20gb
xRAID introduced/to ship by March/Firewire2/SCSI/FiberChannel support $??? [at least $3000 for empty/$6000 for 600gb usable at RAID5]
More "Power of X," "wow stuff" and "ShillerMania"
Classic iMac outa here
Possible Processor Fourum to hint at 970 WORKSTATIONS - they will not replace PMG4 right away
February
PowerMac G4 Dual 1 ghz/combo/167fsb/ata-100/agp4x $1499
PowerMac G4 Dual 1.2ghz/combo/200fsb/FW2/ata-133/agp8x/fullDDR $1999 [or superdrive $2299]
PowerMac G4 Dual 1.4ghz/superdrive/200fsb/FW2/ata-133/agp8x/fullDDR $2699
xServe G4 1.25ghz/dual 1.25ghz/167mhz fsb/support for ata-133 large drives/Firewire2 2 channels on board $2999/$3999
March-April
Possible slight PowerBook and iBook bumps [10-15% speed bumps, 2x superdrive, iBook to G4?]
I would suspect that a PPC970 Workstation [xMac/SuperMac] tech preview or actual introduction either in May/June 03 at Apple or at MWNY.
We'll see eh?
Primalman
MWSF
iMac 15"/800mhz/combo/133fsb/GF4 $1099
iMac 17"/933/combo/133fsb/GF4 $1399
iMac 17"/1ghz/superdrive/133fsb/GF4 $1699
eMac 800/cd [edu only] $749
eMac 800/combo $999
eMac 933/combo or superdrive $1199/$1399
Monitors - updated form factor with VESA adaptability/ADC and DVI
17" LCD 1152x870 $499
17" LCD Cinema 1440x900 $799
19-20" LCD Cinema 1600x1024 $1599
23" HD Cinema 2048x1280 $2999
Possible dual head monitor with 2-17" 1152x870 or 2-17" Cinema 1440x900 displays and single cable to connect both video lines to the normal dual head card, USB and power.
A VESA monitor mounting arm for wall or desk ala iMac arm to enhance desktop monitor offering $249
iTune 4 rendevouz/mp4
iMovie 3
iDVD enhancments
iPod drop 5gb, $50 drop on 10 and 20gb
xRAID introduced/to ship by March/Firewire2/SCSI/FiberChannel support $??? [at least $3000 for empty/$6000 for 600gb usable at RAID5]
More "Power of X," "wow stuff" and "ShillerMania"
Classic iMac outa here
Possible Processor Fourum to hint at 970 WORKSTATIONS - they will not replace PMG4 right away
February
PowerMac G4 Dual 1 ghz/combo/167fsb/ata-100/agp4x $1499
PowerMac G4 Dual 1.2ghz/combo/200fsb/FW2/ata-133/agp8x/fullDDR $1999 [or superdrive $2299]
PowerMac G4 Dual 1.4ghz/superdrive/200fsb/FW2/ata-133/agp8x/fullDDR $2699
xServe G4 1.25ghz/dual 1.25ghz/167mhz fsb/support for ata-133 large drives/Firewire2 2 channels on board $2999/$3999
March-April
Possible slight PowerBook and iBook bumps [10-15% speed bumps, 2x superdrive, iBook to G4?]
I would suspect that a PPC970 Workstation [xMac/SuperMac] tech preview or actual introduction either in May/June 03 at Apple or at MWNY.
We'll see eh?
Primalman
My 2003 projections:
Macworld/January 2003
Bumped iMacs/eMacs
Maybe a new iApp
Long ranting about Jaguar and the future
Price drops on iPod
Axing of iMac G3
Febuary
Minor 10.2.x update
March
New Powermacs, same case, topping out at 1.4 Ghz
April
New digital device
May
Not much
June
Not much
Macworld/July
New iApp
New iBooks
New iPods
August
10.3 beta pops up on web
September
New Powerbook G4s
October
10.3 officially released
November
Price drops on various product lines
December
New Powermacs, equipped with 970 topping out at 1.8 Ghz
Macworld/January 2003
Bumped iMacs/eMacs
Maybe a new iApp
Long ranting about Jaguar and the future
Price drops on iPod
Axing of iMac G3
Febuary
Minor 10.2.x update
March
New Powermacs, same case, topping out at 1.4 Ghz
April
New digital device
May
Not much
June
Not much
Macworld/July
New iApp
New iBooks
New iPods
August
10.3 beta pops up on web
September
New Powerbook G4s
October
10.3 officially released
November
Price drops on various product lines
December
New Powermacs, equipped with 970 topping out at 1.8 Ghz
Re: Imac
Holy Christ Dave.... that's a long keynote!
$4k for a quad g4... I'll take two!
1.00GHz (133fsb) eMacs and iMacs followed by the 970 announcement. Is it too much to expect... yeh, but if it's worth doing, its worth doing right.
Most importantly, and not too radically - I expect to see LogicX.
Holy Christ Dave.... that's a long keynote!
$4k for a quad g4... I'll take two!
1.00GHz (133fsb) eMacs and iMacs followed by the 970 announcement. Is it too much to expect... yeh, but if it's worth doing, its worth doing right.
Most importantly, and not too radically - I expect to see LogicX.
Ive had the pc Im using right now for 3-4 years now and have wanted a mac for about a year now but never had any money for new computer with having to save up money for college with my family and now Im a senior and accually little old me got a full schollarship and Im definitly gonna be getting a mac soon and I defiitly am gonna at least wait for next month to see if any new powermacs get updated but do you think if they arent that I should wait a few more months for a new processor? Ive put up this PC for 4 years now I think I can last a few month month for something a lot better but of course would rather get whats out now if its not gonna be all that much better to wait more time for
My predictions are simple:
iMac:
- bump up to 867 MHz and 1 GHz models
- possibly 256 MB of RAM minimum
- faster Superdrive
- bigger hard drives
- maybe Firewire 2 and USB 2
- GeForce 4 MX video
eMac:
- maybe nothing at MWSF, but an update would bring it to the same speeds as the iMac (they could use a slower system bus to justify the cost difference)
PowerMac:
- likely nothing at the show, but a few weeks afterwards we see a bump to dual 1.5 GHz systems
- the most likely place to see Firewire 2 and USB 2 introduced
iPod:
- if the 5 GB model is kept, its price dips to $199
- either the introduction of a 30 (or even 40!) GB model, or a 20 GB colour model
- Firewire 2?
Software:
- iSync 1.0 is released
- either iPhoto 2 or iMovie 3 (or both)
- possible iTunes update for Rendezvous
- AppleWorks 7
That's about it, as far as I can figure... will there be a revolutionary new piece of hardware or software? I don't doubt it, but the surprise will be what that piece is!
iMac:
- bump up to 867 MHz and 1 GHz models
- possibly 256 MB of RAM minimum
- faster Superdrive
- bigger hard drives
- maybe Firewire 2 and USB 2
- GeForce 4 MX video
eMac:
- maybe nothing at MWSF, but an update would bring it to the same speeds as the iMac (they could use a slower system bus to justify the cost difference)
PowerMac:
- likely nothing at the show, but a few weeks afterwards we see a bump to dual 1.5 GHz systems
- the most likely place to see Firewire 2 and USB 2 introduced
iPod:
- if the 5 GB model is kept, its price dips to $199
- either the introduction of a 30 (or even 40!) GB model, or a 20 GB colour model
- Firewire 2?
Software:
- iSync 1.0 is released
- either iPhoto 2 or iMovie 3 (or both)
- possible iTunes update for Rendezvous
- AppleWorks 7
That's about it, as far as I can figure... will there be a revolutionary new piece of hardware or software? I don't doubt it, but the surprise will be what that piece is!
Does anyone agree with me that they need to introduce a new mouse/keyboard with bluetooth? They have hyped Bluetooth for months ad all we can do is sync a few expensive palms and cells. THat would be the most practical update to the common mac user, no more crappy wires everywhere. As for hardware, who knows I will leave those guesses up to you guys, I want FCP 4 and iphoto 2
A new exciting product would make a nice bday present for me on the 7th
A new exciting product would make a nice bday present for me on the 7th
I agree with you. I don't know about other powermac users, but I for one would like to see a multi-button mouse for the powermac. I've never used the single button mouse, it doesn't cut it for me. A bluetooth optical multi-button mouse seems like a great idea.Originally posted by bennyek
Does anyone agree with me that they need to introduce a new mouse/keyboard with bluetooth? They have hyped Bluetooth for months ad all we can do is sync a few expensive palms and cells. THat would be the most practical update to the common mac user, no more crappy wires everywhere. As for hardware, who knows I will leave those guesses up to you guys, I want FCP 4 and iphoto 2
A new exciting product would make a nice bday present for me on the 7th
I'd love to see a bluetooth keyboard, but with added features. My logitech keyboard has a mail, www, and search button. Add some of these to the keyboard. Maybe add a dock scrolling button where it'll go over all the apps in the doc without a mouse.
Im hoping for a wireless bluetooth mouse and keyboard to go along
with the bluetooth on the powermacs (and other computers hopefully).
Oh, and I forgot to mention that that mouse better have 2 buttons
and a scroll wheel.
with the bluetooth on the powermacs (and other computers hopefully).
Oh, and I forgot to mention that that mouse better have 2 buttons
and a scroll wheel.
Definitely speed bumped iMacs and mostly likely eMacs too. Death to the G3 iMac.
Hmm...
The usual Jaguar stuff.
Something HAS to be said about the powermacs. Proally show em off, maybe cost cuts, not much else. *shrug*
eMagic talk. Audiounits. Rendervouuuzuzuzu.... all the new stuff. Software bonanza, complete with iApp updates, don't know abotu any new ones though.
And... come on... no 970 news. 95% chance anyway.
Um... no 2 button mouse!
Bluetooth bonanza as well.
basically.. software bonanza!! What else can they really do short of saying OMGOMG LEIK WTF 970 @ uR DOOR!!!
Ya know?
Hmm...
The usual Jaguar stuff.
Something HAS to be said about the powermacs. Proally show em off, maybe cost cuts, not much else. *shrug*
eMagic talk. Audiounits. Rendervouuuzuzuzu.... all the new stuff. Software bonanza, complete with iApp updates, don't know abotu any new ones though.
And... come on... no 970 news.
95% chance anyway.Um... no 2 button mouse!
Bluetooth bonanza as well.
basically.. software bonanza!! What else can they really do short of saying OMGOMG LEIK WTF 970 @ uR DOOR!!!
Ya know?
It's been a long time since we got a real SHOCKER though. Might be time for one... if so, what would it be?
OS 10.3 preview? Nah.. not a HUGE shock.. although iChat with tabbed windows might make it -useful-.
Hm.. not the 970.. it can't be..
New iPod? Colour screen? Nah, I don't really see it. Maybe though.
Appleworks 7 that kicks Office's ass? Possibly.
Apple browser? Actually, this isn't that crazy of a thing to predict. They have a mail thing... If they release a killer Appleworks (maybe a new name.. iWorks.. I donno), and a killer browser, they could cut out virtually all MS software that comes with the computer. Whee!! That would be shocking.
Yeah.... 30% chance there will be a browser/appleworks shocker. iApp mania I tell you!
Too bad nothing -I- want, heh. Maybe Logic 6? *grin* Preview? Pahlease? Nah..
OS 10.3 preview? Nah.. not a HUGE shock.. although iChat with tabbed windows might make it -useful-.
Hm.. not the 970.. it can't be..
New iPod? Colour screen? Nah, I don't really see it. Maybe though.
Appleworks 7 that kicks Office's ass? Possibly.
Apple browser? Actually, this isn't that crazy of a thing to predict. They have a mail thing... If they release a killer Appleworks (maybe a new name.. iWorks.. I donno), and a killer browser, they could cut out virtually all MS software that comes with the computer. Whee!! That would be shocking.
Yeah.... 30% chance there will be a browser/appleworks shocker. iApp mania I tell you!
Too bad nothing -I- want, heh. Maybe Logic 6? *grin* Preview? Pahlease? Nah..
Okay, let's try to compile a top 10 list of possible (semi-realistic) Shockers for MWSF:
1. 970 announcement
2. Quad g4
3. OSX x86 release
4. iPhone
5. Bluetooth/Gigawire PowerMacs with speed bump
6. ColorScreen iPod with size bump
7.
8.
9.
10.
Give me some help on this one... the big shocks are easy, how about more subtle shockers?
1. 970 announcement
2. Quad g4
3. OSX x86 release
4. iPhone
5. Bluetooth/Gigawire PowerMacs with speed bump
6. ColorScreen iPod with size bump
7.
8.
9.
10.
Give me some help on this one... the big shocks are easy, how about more subtle shockers?