MWSF 2005 Powerbook

[SiliconAddict]

There will be a G5 under the hood of the PB's at MWSF because although people talk of heat and power issues Apple has had 2 years to move the G5 into a PB case.

15" & 17" Widescreen - 2.0 GHZ G5 - 1GB DDR2 - 100GIG - 6600m

HA. Think again. Lets assume for a second that a G5 can go into a PowerBook it sure has heck will NOT be a 2GHz chip. At most probably a 1.6-1.8Ghz.

Originally I too was hopeful for a late X-Mas gift in January with the announcement of a G5 PowerBook however since looking at an iMac I’m highly doubtful. Have you felt the back of one of those new iMacs? They get pretty toasty and that is with a fan, a pretty damn big heat sink, and a lot of room to play with. I think the G5 is still running too hot to slap in the PowerBook and if Apple somehow does fit one into say the 17” it would be thicker then 1” and probably get around 2 hours of battery life. What is frustrating as hell is the fact that Apple doesn’t have a mobile solution right now or at the very least nothing comparable to the Pentium M. For those who think there will be a Freescale CPU anytime soon keep on dreaming. Its probably as likely as a G5 PowerBook. I personally think, god this kills me, Apple is going to do simple price cuts in January and might announce something at WWDC to be delivered in 3rd quarter. In that time frame AMD and Intel are going to eat the G4 alive in terms of price vs. performance. It’s the same crap that happened with the G4 Desktop before its transition over to the G5. Apple has hung themselves by not looking long-term when it comes to development. The should have been working with IBM on SOMETHING; anything for the PowerBook line while they were working on the G5, and if that meant a revamped G3 then so be it. I think January is going to be a very sad month for those who are interested in a laptop.

 

[Logik]

HA. Think again. Lets assume for a second that a G5 can go into a PowerBook it sure has heck will NOT be a 2GHz chip. At most probably a 1.6-1.8Ghz.

Originally I too was hopeful for a late X-Mas gift in January with the announcement of a G5 PowerBook however since looking at an iMac I’m highly doubtful. Have you felt the back of one of those new iMacs? They get pretty toasty and that is with a fan, a pretty damn big heat sink, and a lot of room to play with. I think the G5 is still running too hot to slap in the PowerBook and if Apple somehow does fit one into say the 17” it would be thicker then 1” and probably get around 2 hours of battery life. What is frustrating as hell is the fact that Apple doesn’t have a mobile solution right now or at the very least nothing comparable to the Pentium M. For those who think there will be a Freescale CPU anytime soon keep on dreaming. Its probably as likely as a G5 PowerBook. I personally think, god this kills me, Apple is going to do simple price cuts in January and might announce something at WWDC to be delivered in 3rd quarter. In that time frame AMD and Intel are going to eat the G4 alive in terms of price vs. performance. It’s the same crap that happened with the G4 Desktop before its transition over to the G5. Apple has hung themselves by not looking long-term when it comes to development. The should have been working with IBM on SOMETHING; anything for the PowerBook line while they were working on the G5, and if that meant a revamped G3 then so be it. I think January is going to be a very sad month for those who are interested in a laptop.

me and you sir outta get along great. I agree completely.

You won't see a G5 announcement until AT THE EARLIEST WWDC '05, and you won't be seeing dual core G4 chips until about the same time. Now, in all likelihood you won't see the dual core G4 if they can fit the G5 in the powerbook.. BUT.. you might get the dual core chips in the iBook line... otherwise, the iBook will get the old PB G4 chips, and the PB will get the dual core chips for WWDC. We might not get anything more than dual core chips in the PB until the next POWER processor by IBM comes out based on the POWER 6. They might design the (we'll tentatively call it the G6) G6 (based on the POWER 6) with power and heat in mind moreso than they did with the POWER 5 (what the G5 was derived from). So you might NEVER see a G5 in a powerbook, instead they might totally skip from Dual Core G4's to a mobile G6... we'll see what happens. these are obviously just my guessings. But I am not seeing the G5 in the pb anytime soon... it could be announced at WWDC after IBM completes a major redesign of the chip for mobile machines.. but wouldn't ship until 3rd quarter some time. As currently the G5 is way too big, wayy to hot and wayyy to power hungry.. even clocking it down is just not enough.

 

[maya]

In January 2005, Apple will lay to rest the PowerBook G4 and introduce the all new and sexy PowerBook G-String. :: worn by Steve Jobs::


I had to crack a joke this is waaay to funny not to miss the opportunity.

This topic has been beaten to death.




Steve does the G-String monty and looses the turtle neck on stage.

 

[pigwin32]

Do yall forget that the G4, dual core or not, has a terribly slow front side bus. Even Steve himself has said that the FSB is sometimes more important than clock speed.

This is dross, yes the FSB is important, but the freescale dual-core G4 has a completely different bus architecture. Freescale announced three processors, the MPC7448 pin-compatible replacement for the MPC7447A (this one still has the slow fsb issue but is a drop-in replacement and could well surface at MWSF), the single core MPC8641 and the dual-core MPC8641D. To quote EETimes,

Like the PowerQuicc, the 8641 (in both single and dual versions) turns the MPX bus into a fully internal bus for faster access between core processor and peripherals.

Personally I would love to see a MPC8641D dual-core G4 PowerBook at MWSF, sadly the EETimes article suggest the chips will sample in the second half of 2005.

 

[Logik]

This is dross, yes the FSB is important, but the freescale dual-core G4 has a completely different bus architecture. Freescale announced three processors, the MPC7448 pin-compatible replacement for the MPC7447A (this one still has the slow fsb issue but is a drop-in replacement and could well surface at MWSF), the single core MPC8641 and the dual-core MPC8641D. To quote EETimes,
Personally I would love to see a MPC8641D dual-core G4 PowerBook at MWSF, sadly the EETimes article suggest the chips will sample in the second half of 2005.

exactly what i was saying.. the Dual-core chips won't be in this revision unless some miracle happened.. i actually linked to that very article in this thread, no one seemed to have given my thought a response or a second thought though... no G5 because it simply isn't ready for such a small portable.. and the dual cores are out due to not being ready for at least another 6 months... just a speed increase really is all we'll get... ah well.. just means my purchase in May was a good choice..

 

[darkwing]

In January 2005, Apple will lay to rest the PowerBook G4 and introduce the all new and sexy PowerBook G-String. :: worn by Steve Jobs::


I had to crack a joke this is waaay to funny not to miss the opportunity.

This topic has been beaten to death.




Steve does the G-String monty and looses the turtle neck on stage.

You've just robbed me of any last shred of hope I held for MWSF. And also life.

Steve

 

[pigwin32]

You've just robbed me of any last shred of hope I held for MWSF. And also life.

Steve

I know what you mean, man breasts and a thong, eeewww.