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iPhone XR My 12 year old twins can unlock each other's phones using Face ID
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My nephew's who are all under 12 have Apple devices and one has just gone to comprehensive (UK term) at age 12 and has been forced to have a Chromebook bought for him and has been told not to use a pen and paper and only work by computer... As a manager recruiting millennials I have to say, I worry about the future of this world
But back to the subject
face id is not perfect. Apples variant is quite good but not foolproof... I expect as technology moves forward it will get better and software.may help but it might be that hardware limitations mean the current iPhone will still have these mismatches
Actually identical twins or rare (and not necessarily replicatable) family members aside, it is rather foolproof.My nephew's who are all under 12 have Apple devices and one has just gone to comprehensive (UK term) at age 12 and has been forced to have a Chromebook bought for him and has been told not to use a pen and paper and only work by computer... As a manager recruiting millennials I have to say, I worry about the future of this world
But back to the subject
They started with regular iPads when they were 8. Those were upgraded to previous generation iPad Pros last year. When its came time for them to have phones this year, they received their Mom's and her husband's hand me down 5 and 5S. They showed they were responsible with those phones so I upgraded them to XRs. At one point I asked what kind of phones their friends have (7th grade). Most have iPhone 6s - 7s. One has an iPhone 8 and a couple kids have older Samsung phones.
Quick info about twins - Fraternal twins are “dizygotic,” meaning that they developed from two different eggs fertilized by two different sperm cells, while identical twins are “monozygotic” i.e., they developed from a single fertilized egg that split. The likelihood of identical twins is the same around the world — about 3 in 1,000, while the incidence of fraternal twins varies by geography and ranges from 6 to over 20 per 1,000 deliveries.
There was an article (maybe more than one) the last few years about a child who unlocked sleeping mommy’s phone using Touch id by holding the phone to mommy’s thumb.
Biometrics aren’t foolproof and to me both Face ID and Touch ID have a good balance between convenience and security. If my phone was in a hostile environment I would disable biometrics and use a passcode only.
Biometrics aren’t foolproof and to me both Face ID and Touch ID have a good balance between convenience and security. If my phone was in a hostile environment I would disable biometrics and use a passcode only.
Where have you been? This was mentioned by Apple at the keynote event announcement for Face ID and the iPhone X over a year ago.
Lol my grandkids are well on their way to having iPhones by that age; they’ve all had iPads since they were babies. With the military life and all the travel, iPads saved all my daughters’ sanity.
[doublepost=1546094115][/doublepost]Oh and I’m gonna have to get my twin nephews (they’re adults) to try this - curious now to see if it would work for them.
[doublepost=1546094115][/doublepost]Oh and I’m gonna have to get my twin nephews (they’re adults) to try this - curious now to see if it would work for them.
It seems to me when this was initially reported it was debunked as fake.
Identical twins, sure, other family members, negatory.
I would argue that is a very different scenario to fooling the phone into thinking you are someone else. The child in your example didn’t unlock the phone, the mother did. FaceID is clearly still in its infancy and can only and must get better in the coming years.
Do you have a link to that being debunked?
Just google FaceID gets fooled....
see below
https://www.google.com/search?ei=Q8...wiz.......0i71j33i299j33i22i29i30.r0tU4FDksw4
https://www.google.com/search?q=fac...rome..69i57.8594j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Is there something more that really needs to be re-rehashed about it all beyond what's already officially said about it (as pointed out in the quoted post) and what many existing threads in the topic from about a year ago have already hashed and rehashed?
This is why we don't use "face id". This would never happen with Touch ID because no one's fingerprints are identical.
I’m not really worried about a doppelgänger being able to unlock my phone. I’ll take my chances. The number of units of the x/Xs/Xs max/xr that are in circulation vs the number of “YouTube” videos that claim to break Face ID Xs the actual number of authentic claims...I am not worried in the least.
It wasn't something I needed to pay attention to back then but now I get to experience it. The person we talked to at the Apple store was surprised to see it happen.
The person at the Apple store is ALWAYS surprised to see something negative happen with a Apple product.
It's been quite a while since that one came out and researching it again I see that the explanation is that the mother had just setup FaceID and then her son who looks remarkably similar to her was able to unlock it. The assumption is that had she used it for a while and had FaceID been trained better over time, this would not have happened.
I'm not suggesting that FaceID is 100% bulletproof and could never be fooled, but it's pretty darn close. I believe that once it get's trained over time the only way it could be fooled would be by an identical twin. I don't don't give much weight to random YouTube videos anyway.
The likelihood of someone getting a hold of phone AND being able to open it with Face ID is small enough that I do use Face ID. Lol.