So my 16" i9 2.3 32Gb 8Gb 1Tb rocked up 4 days ago and I've been hammering it in almost full production mode since. Bottom line is I love it ... with a couple of exceptions.
Overall performance
It absolutely smashes every task put in front of it. Nothing is too much effort. My workflow is predominantly design-based using a lot of Chrome/Safari tabs running various apps, image editing, InDesign and non-4k video (Davinci mostly) plus running Win 10 via Parallels for a single app (that will always be Win only). Most days I need to record Webex sessions using SnagIt or Camtasia. And I drive an LG 4k display when the mood takes me.
Historically, I've used powerful laptops, eg HP ZBooks, so I'm well aware of the advantages and expectations of power and performance. However, having become bored of Windows after so many years, I joined the Mac party 9 months ago and started using a MBA for the lightweight work and a Surface Pro for the heavier stuff. Now I'm switching to OSX full time.
So what's happening? Well, the machine spends 80% of its time pulling 24-28Gb RAM. That's acceptable and proves to me that 16Gb is nowhere near enough for me these days. However, the unit itself get super hot a lot, even without being pushed, eg playing a YT video. Seems I'm in good company on this one. Cores regularly hit 65-75deg + with fans getting noisy around 2800-3100. Not unusual to see them reach 4000+.
Battery life
So far, it's poor. Like others have said, it might well have a lot of services going on in the background for the start of its life. I've no idea. But after probably 60hrs of use it's not getting any better. Today I went through 2 full charges in maybe 8hrs. Currently reverted to running off the mains for now. All rather concerning as I can see me clocking up 500+ cycles in less than a year, meaning a replacement battery (or a highly strung one) within 2 years. A lot of techie people I know discourage using laptops off the mains all the time. Unsure what best practice is these days TBH. Maybe mains is the way to go?
Keyboard
In two words: almost perfect. It's pretty similar to the 2015 MBA I've been running - just a bit bigger, more solid and thunkier. Not sure what more I need from a keyboard.
Portability
Speaking of the MBA, let's talk about portability. Naturally, the MBA is incredibly easy to pick up and use almost anywhere, not unlike an iPad. The 16" is a rather different beast. To look at and use, it's a work of art. It's also heavy. Solid. And it demands a whole heap of care. I want to keep it pristine and can see that being hard to accomplish without the right case/cover. Have now got into the habit of using in different places around the house. But not sure I want to take a hulking £3k+ device to quite so many cafes as I did with the MBA.
Screen
Well, it's bright and colourful, but not in a state of the art way. Seems pretty identical to the most recent MBPs so don't expect anything close to iMac levels. And as for the res, well I was expecting to fire up 3072 x 1920 out of the box but that didn't happen. 2048 x 1280 is the default max. Hmm, odd. Why be that? Well, after installing EasyRes and upping the numbers I realised my eyes can't take much more than 2688 x 1680. So now I'm cool with the default.
Speakers
I didn't really care much for this upgrade as I normally use a Bose over BT or a pair of cans. And they're pretty much as I expected them to be, ie imagine the best native laptop speakers given the size/form factor of the device ... and that's what the are. Some impressive depth for sure. But that's it. Some people will no doubt love them and that's cool. I'll happily use them for some ambient tunage from time to time, but I'd rather do so using the 3D Boom app. I paid something like £8 for this a few months and it totally transforms all forms of audio.
Any speaker pop? Once in a while. Not something I'm fretting over right now. Maybe upgrading to 10.15.2 will fix it 100%
Touchbar
Am trying to like it but can see why some people find it totally redundant. It's like someone came up with the idea 5 years ago and Apple can't admit it was just plain dumb. It doesn't really offer anything IMO. I'll persevere though but not holding out much hope.
Catalina
10.15.1? Great so far. Nice and stable. Not much different to Mojave IMO. Nothing more to add.
Personal stuff
Anyone looking for a mouse recommendation? Well, I bought an MX Master 3 a couple of months ago to see what all the fuss was about. It's damn silent and exceptionally accurate. Also customisable. And, contrary to the feedback of other MX 3/Catalina users, it works on my 16". No glitches so far. Logi Options app runs fine too.
Parallels working well? So far, yes. I only need to run a single Win 10 app and that's fine. No stresses on CPU or RAM. Main challenge for me is creating the best workflow for sharing 95% of my production files via GoogleDrive. To isolate or not to isolate? That is the question.
Ghosting? No.
Conclusion
So, is this 16" a keeper? Maybe. Sure, it can do everything I demand of it now - and most likely in 2-3 years. i9 with 8 cores certainly handy for Parallels. Maybe an i7 with 6 cores would suffice. And get less hot/noisy? And therein lies the main issue ... I guess the i9 is generating more heat and needs to shift it somehow, but the 'improved' cooling and performance means more fan noise. Longer term, will this create issues with other components, the battery, the keyboard?
And it costs £3250 GBP. That's a big pot of cash. In my head I can't justify it, especially as I'll probably drop another £400 on AC+. Hugely overpriced IMO. But we know that when we hand over our money. Maybe I'll send it back and grab a mint secondhand 2019 i7 or i9 for more-or-less half the money. And some warranty.
That's my tuppence. Hopefully something helpful in there for a few peeps.
Overall performance
It absolutely smashes every task put in front of it. Nothing is too much effort. My workflow is predominantly design-based using a lot of Chrome/Safari tabs running various apps, image editing, InDesign and non-4k video (Davinci mostly) plus running Win 10 via Parallels for a single app (that will always be Win only). Most days I need to record Webex sessions using SnagIt or Camtasia. And I drive an LG 4k display when the mood takes me.
Historically, I've used powerful laptops, eg HP ZBooks, so I'm well aware of the advantages and expectations of power and performance. However, having become bored of Windows after so many years, I joined the Mac party 9 months ago and started using a MBA for the lightweight work and a Surface Pro for the heavier stuff. Now I'm switching to OSX full time.
So what's happening? Well, the machine spends 80% of its time pulling 24-28Gb RAM. That's acceptable and proves to me that 16Gb is nowhere near enough for me these days. However, the unit itself get super hot a lot, even without being pushed, eg playing a YT video. Seems I'm in good company on this one. Cores regularly hit 65-75deg + with fans getting noisy around 2800-3100. Not unusual to see them reach 4000+.
Battery life
So far, it's poor. Like others have said, it might well have a lot of services going on in the background for the start of its life. I've no idea. But after probably 60hrs of use it's not getting any better. Today I went through 2 full charges in maybe 8hrs. Currently reverted to running off the mains for now. All rather concerning as I can see me clocking up 500+ cycles in less than a year, meaning a replacement battery (or a highly strung one) within 2 years. A lot of techie people I know discourage using laptops off the mains all the time. Unsure what best practice is these days TBH. Maybe mains is the way to go?
Keyboard
In two words: almost perfect. It's pretty similar to the 2015 MBA I've been running - just a bit bigger, more solid and thunkier. Not sure what more I need from a keyboard.
Portability
Speaking of the MBA, let's talk about portability. Naturally, the MBA is incredibly easy to pick up and use almost anywhere, not unlike an iPad. The 16" is a rather different beast. To look at and use, it's a work of art. It's also heavy. Solid. And it demands a whole heap of care. I want to keep it pristine and can see that being hard to accomplish without the right case/cover. Have now got into the habit of using in different places around the house. But not sure I want to take a hulking £3k+ device to quite so many cafes as I did with the MBA.
Screen
Well, it's bright and colourful, but not in a state of the art way. Seems pretty identical to the most recent MBPs so don't expect anything close to iMac levels. And as for the res, well I was expecting to fire up 3072 x 1920 out of the box but that didn't happen. 2048 x 1280 is the default max. Hmm, odd. Why be that? Well, after installing EasyRes and upping the numbers I realised my eyes can't take much more than 2688 x 1680. So now I'm cool with the default.
Speakers
I didn't really care much for this upgrade as I normally use a Bose over BT or a pair of cans. And they're pretty much as I expected them to be, ie imagine the best native laptop speakers given the size/form factor of the device ... and that's what the are. Some impressive depth for sure. But that's it. Some people will no doubt love them and that's cool. I'll happily use them for some ambient tunage from time to time, but I'd rather do so using the 3D Boom app. I paid something like £8 for this a few months and it totally transforms all forms of audio.
Any speaker pop? Once in a while. Not something I'm fretting over right now. Maybe upgrading to 10.15.2 will fix it 100%
Touchbar
Am trying to like it but can see why some people find it totally redundant. It's like someone came up with the idea 5 years ago and Apple can't admit it was just plain dumb. It doesn't really offer anything IMO. I'll persevere though but not holding out much hope.
Catalina
10.15.1? Great so far. Nice and stable. Not much different to Mojave IMO. Nothing more to add.
Personal stuff
Anyone looking for a mouse recommendation? Well, I bought an MX Master 3 a couple of months ago to see what all the fuss was about. It's damn silent and exceptionally accurate. Also customisable. And, contrary to the feedback of other MX 3/Catalina users, it works on my 16". No glitches so far. Logi Options app runs fine too.
Parallels working well? So far, yes. I only need to run a single Win 10 app and that's fine. No stresses on CPU or RAM. Main challenge for me is creating the best workflow for sharing 95% of my production files via GoogleDrive. To isolate or not to isolate? That is the question.
Ghosting? No.
Conclusion
So, is this 16" a keeper? Maybe. Sure, it can do everything I demand of it now - and most likely in 2-3 years. i9 with 8 cores certainly handy for Parallels. Maybe an i7 with 6 cores would suffice. And get less hot/noisy? And therein lies the main issue ... I guess the i9 is generating more heat and needs to shift it somehow, but the 'improved' cooling and performance means more fan noise. Longer term, will this create issues with other components, the battery, the keyboard?
And it costs £3250 GBP. That's a big pot of cash. In my head I can't justify it, especially as I'll probably drop another £400 on AC+. Hugely overpriced IMO. But we know that when we hand over our money. Maybe I'll send it back and grab a mint secondhand 2019 i7 or i9 for more-or-less half the money. And some warranty.
That's my tuppence. Hopefully something helpful in there for a few peeps.
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