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my 800mhz ibook is faster than a 3.4 ghz PC, whoa!
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I just want 2 tell u somethin' about your subject '800mhz is faster than 3.4ghz P4'
This are the Facts:
MHZ will not equal to PERFORMANCE
mhz is jus a contributing factor to performance, the Macintosh G4 (7) has less pipeline stages, than the P4 (20). So the process will be done faster. It also rely's on the architure of the processor, and the Cache is also a Factor. This is called the Megahertz Myth.
I hope that you have learnt that performance is just more than the 3 symbols MHz.
Source is from the video "Megahertz Myth". (But a 800mhz is not that fast
)
This are the Facts:
MHZ will not equal to PERFORMANCE
mhz is jus a contributing factor to performance, the Macintosh G4 (7) has less pipeline stages, than the P4 (20). So the process will be done faster. It also rely's on the architure of the processor, and the Cache is also a Factor. This is called the Megahertz Myth.
I hope that you have learnt that performance is just more than the 3 symbols MHz.
Source is from the video "Megahertz Myth". (But a 800mhz is not that fast
)
The cache on that ibook is 133mhz. Maybe slower.Pixeled_Apple said:I just want 2 tell u somethin' about your subject '800mhz is faster than 3.4ghz P4'
This are the Facts:
MHZ will not equal to PERFORMANCE
mhz is jus a contributing factor to performance, the Macintosh G4 (7) has less pipeline stages, than the P4 (20). So the process will be done faster. It also rely's on the architure of the processor, and the Cache is also a Factor. This is called the Megahertz Myth.
I hope that you have learnt that performance is just more than the 3 symbols MHz.
Source is from the video "Megahertz Myth". (But a 800mhz is not that fast
Give it up that ibook doesnt come close to anything pc related. You buy your macs for ease-of-use and liack of virii, and the ilife apps. Stop pretending.
AdamR01 said:
I'm not sure they ever said it was. They said the PC was faster up until WWDC 2003. And even then that was only like 2 weeks or something.
The fact is - most Adobe apps are run on sub 600Mhz machines - because design firms are notorious for using the oldest computers. Some places won't go G5 for a few more years. The place where I work has one G5 - but the rest are Quick Silvers or Sawtooths.
pc's bog down, it's a fact of life benhmarks are done on fresh installs with only the app required installed, i'd like to see a benchmark of an imac g5 which has had graphic design work done on it for a month Vs a 3.6GHz P4 in the same test conditions.
sure you can keep your system clean with umteen firewalls virus checkers ct. but that eats in on your work time.
the ultimate benchmark would be 20 graphic designers told to make a project ten on pc's ten on macs, a long project.
it's real life speed that matters not gigaflops or ow man fps it can do with ut2k4 with a fresh install.
(yes i know macs will still get destroyed at games but thats only untill apple get's a hardware sound card and there is some way to bridge the gap between open gl and directx.
sure you can keep your system clean with umteen firewalls virus checkers ct. but that eats in on your work time.
the ultimate benchmark would be 20 graphic designers told to make a project ten on pc's ten on macs, a long project.
it's real life speed that matters not gigaflops or ow man fps it can do with ut2k4 with a fresh install.
(yes i know macs will still get destroyed at games but thats only untill apple get's a hardware sound card and there is some way to bridge the gap between open gl and directx.
jackieonasses said:
the cache is 256Kb th bus is 133MHz.
(oh and mav get some freaking ram, my ibook choked on 128MB get a 512 stick there not too much, my book is acctually a fair bit more responcive that a someone i knows amd64 HP laptop that may be because it's spyware laden as he looks at allot of p0rn, but i boot faster than him, i open douments faster, when he get's to his desktop you cant do anything for the firs minit it just hangs there.
yea.. the cache 133mhz didn't make sense.... Anyways... 256kbs for cache isn't that big, 512kbs is good, but it depends on the mac machine...
Ok, here's some evidence that the numbers do not mean everything. Go to that lovely site http://forgetcomputers.com/~jdroz/pages/09.html Then go to the link where apple has their numbers for MTOPS.
iBook
12-inch & 14-inch display
G3 @ 800 MHz 1,064
iBook G4
12-inch display
G4 @ 800 MHz 11,464
The only difference real between a G4 and a G3 is altivec. How can there then be a more than 10x increase in speed? Altivec! Is everything optimized for altivec? No. This also assumes the G4 isnt crippled by a slow bus speed...
iBook
12-inch & 14-inch display
G3 @ 800 MHz 1,064
iBook G4
12-inch display
G4 @ 800 MHz 11,464
The only difference real between a G4 and a G3 is altivec. How can there then be a more than 10x increase in speed? Altivec! Is everything optimized for altivec? No. This also assumes the G4 isnt crippled by a slow bus speed...
jacg said:
Yep. MS Office runs much more smoothly on Windows than it does on the Mac. Powerpoint performance can be downright diabolical on both my 1.6GHz G5 and my 1.33GHz PowerBook (see sig for details), yet when the same file is opened on a regular-spec office PC, performance is fine.
In general I think poor software optimization is the biggest problem facing Mac users at the moment. Games are currently the best example of this, but as you have noticed, even 'lightweight' apps like MS Word sometimes feel sluggish on the Mac compared to similarly (or worse) specced PCs. Hopefully tools like XCode and improved versions of compilers and libraries will eventually make this problem go away (or at least reduce its impact).