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Does the Activity app still use the iPhone for GPS tracking when it’s available?

Yes for all Apple Watches until model year 2022. AW8, SE2 and Ultra only use their own GPS no matter if there is an iPhone nearby.
 
Hello smart people,
I could need some input and ideas…

I own a AW series 7 (non cellular) with battery health 84% with Apple care+ till end of November…
I run with my Apple Watch (track/manage my run with the regular workout app by apple) and I plan on doing a full marathon end of September (24th), but my AW battery won’t last long enough for me to track the whole marathon… (after finishing a half marathon I had less than 50% battery left so it won’t work… and I doubt that enabling the low power mode would be enough to get me through…)

Now I don’t really know what to do…

With a battery health of 84% I can’t get a new one with apple care.
The “new” Apple Watch 9 might not be available before the marathon or arrive in time
I certainly don’t wanna buy a man (old) AW8 just a couple days before the AW9 hit the shelves…

If there wasn’t the marathon I probably would keep my AW7 and either wait till battery health drops below 80% for a new one or buy a AW 10/x next year…
(but with the rumors about a new connection between band and watch next year I might wanna stick to the old system for longer because I wanna use my bands as long as possible… so I had to buy a AW9 this year…)

Any smart suggestions or ideas for my dilemma?

Are you allowed to bring your iPhone with you? I know it seems silly but it will allow the watch to last longer.

My series 6 cellular with about 87% battery health has gone over 7 hrs with just the watch, low power mode enabled, medium screen brightness and using wrist based HRM with no music.
 
Okay, battery saving techniques…which are there?
Low power mode obviously, set display brightness to low, listen to music with iPhone,…
Anything else I haven’t thought of? (I want to track my race so I need the workout app and GPS)

An AW ultra would help but is out of my price range and I don’t want to switch to Garmin…

I already run a marathon in 2017 with my AW 2 without a problem but it was only one year old at that time and not 2…

It really is bad luck that the battery health is to good for a replacement and to bad to last long enough for a marathon…
The biggest suggestion for the S7 might be to just have your iPhone near by in a flipbelt or something - For the S8/Ultra it uses internal GPS antenna always but for S7 it will use the iPhone GPS if it's nearby.

I have run 10 marathons and I think 6 or 7 of them with normal Apple Watches (S2, S4, S7) and now Ultra. Have always been okay - first many years with iPhone nearby
 
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If the watch is under 2 years old and can’t track some exercise for a few hours, it’s not fit for purpose. Take it back to Apple and get them to replace it without going through AppleCare. The product is defective and not your problem. I wouldn’t be leaving their store until it is replaced under warranty.
The fine print matters. The OP is doing more than just 'exercise'. Apple may consider a marathon to be much much more than just mere 'exercise' and thus not covered under it's warranty of 'not fit for purpose'.
 
The fine print matters. The OP is doing more than just 'exercise'. Apple may consider a marathon to be much much more than just mere 'exercise' and thus not covered under it's warranty of 'not fit for purpose'.

I think 16% battery degradation in less than 2 years is pretty extreme though. My AW is coming up to 4 years old and is on 78%. I’d certainly be complaining about that at the very least.
 
My question would be, are you streaming music from the watch? That's a huge battery drain, in my experience. If you are, try a long run without streaming music (if you can muster the courage 😆), and see how the battery reacts. If this is your first marathon, I can promise you it'll be quite the experience with or without music. Try to focus on and enjoy the experience of being in and around nature for multiple hours: the sights, the smells, the sounds, (the pain!) :eek:

Good luck!!
 
Okay, battery saving techniques…which are there?
Low power mode obviously, set display brightness to low, listen to music with iPhone,…
Anything else I haven’t thought of? (I want to track my race so I need the workout app and GPS)
Turn off raise to wake, turn off Always on Display, put it in theatre mode (Which turns off the display all together). I did a 10.5 hour walk with AW6 (I think) and had 37% battery left (watch used GPS from the iPhone) Apple Watch Marathon and Long distance walking battery life – Greg Hilton's Website
 
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Turn off raise to wake, turn off Always on Display, put it in theatre mode (Which turns off the display all together). I did a 10.5 hour walk with AW6 (I think) and had 37% battery left (watch used GPS from the iPhone) Apple Watch Marathon and Long distance walking battery life – Greg Hilton's Website
Agree with Kitenski. Keeping the watch face off as much as possible will save you a lot of battery life. I'd start with some of the tips listed above and try them to see which ones help the most. Make sure cellular is off as well. And like mentioned, don't stream music. If you have to listen to it on your watch, make sure to download the playlist beforehand.
 
My Apple Watch Series 4 has 72% battery health and has gotten me through multiple Marathons, last one Chicago October last year. I did a really slow time too, over 5 hours.
I will see you in Berlin and am pretty sure my watch will again last me the whole marathon!
Good luck, you got it :)
 
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As others have said, I would get the Apple Watch Ultra to last you through a marathon. That's unfortunate to hear, though. I have an SE and I've been planning on training for a 5k, 10k, half, then full marathon over the next year or so. I guess I should start saving up for the Ultra.

I don't know about the SE, but my 6 has made it through a couple trail marathons. I turn off BT and AOD.

I'm one of the few that run without music...
 
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How long do you think you're marathon will take? Apple lists

Up to 12 hours outdoor workout with GPS​

I assume your marathon will take less than 4 hours. So I'd look into the settings and shutdown non-essential elements for the workout.

Good luck on your marathon!

 
Interesting that it didn't last for you. I ran my last marathon with my GPS Series 7 and it had a solid 20% battery left after the race, and I used my AirPods for about 3.5 hours until they died. I have always-on display turned off, and I did not have my phone with me. For time reference I finished in 4:29.

I know others have said to get an Ultra, but I think that with the right setup (mainly AOD off) you can get a marathon out of it. In my experience I find that keeping AOD turned off my battery lasts MUCH longer both in exercise and day-to-day use.

My last long run was 18 miles with the same AOD off, AirPods on setup and I had close to half of my battery left after I was done. This was last week. My battery health is a bit higher than yours, but I think if you change those settings (if you haven't) you may be surprised with how much of a change you see.
 
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@6SpeedPourover With AOD off, does the watch require a button press to see your stats? Or does it function like the AW0-4 where you have to raise your wrist to get the screen to turn on?
When you turn AOD off, the newer watches work exactly the same as the ones without AOD. So make sure you have "raise to wake" set to on, and the watch will turn on when you raise your wrist.
 
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@6SpeedPourover With AOD off, does the watch require a button press to see your stats? Or does it function like the AW0-4 where you have to raise your wrist to get the screen to turn on?
Like the person above me said as well, it's just raise to see the screen and it'll turn off when you lower it. I almost always just leave AOD off. I've accidentally left it on for a few runs and my battery is just destroyed afterward.

To me t's a battery suck, and I don't care how my watch face looks when I'm not looking at it. I've never had an issue with it turning on when I raise my wrist in exercise or other situations.

If you're really concerned you could use theater mode as others have suggested, then you'd have to press a button. This could limit accidental wrist-raised detection and save even more battery.
 
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