My course's late mark policy - halrious.

DeSnousa

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I have my philosophy essay due today, and I thought I would read the late mark policy. Best system used :D

The essay is out of 40 marks.

Late Essays Policy

-Essays received after the due date will be penalised 1 mark per day. (Eg an essay due on Tuesday, but handed in on the following Thursday will have two mark deducted.)

-Working days only are counted. (weekend not counted). (Eg an essay due on Friday, but handed in on the following Monday will have one mark deducted.)

-Both the original mark and the late mark are to be recorded on the front cover of the essay, top right hand corner.

-Late marks will not be deducted in the case that a student will fail the course but otherwise pass.

-Essays received after the date set for the return of essays will not be marked and will receive zero.

-Extensions will be granted only in exceptional circumstances, such as documented illness.

-Extensions can be granted only by the Course Coordinator, Phil Dowe.
Usual School grievance avenues are available.
That made me laugh. Like I said the essay is marked out of 40 marks. With that said it still is getting handed in on time :eek:
 

nbs2

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I don't get it....what's so funny? I mean, he's not going to be unreasonable with lateness. Your pride in your work should motivate you to turn stuff in, but when you have unavoidable conflicts, it is nice to know that there is some flex. At work, we when had serious conflicts, we would re-prioritize, and what didn't get done on deadline we would eat the consequences if that meant getting even more essential stuff done (especially in emergency situations).
 

dornoforpyros

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uhh what? lol reminds me of one of my profs in college. He was well meaning, but he handed out a lot of assignments that were worded like that.
 

eva01

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nbs2 said:
I don't get it....what's so funny? I mean, he's not going to be unreasonable with lateness. Your pride in your work should motivate you to turn stuff in, but when you have unavoidable conflicts, it is nice to know that there is some flex. At work, we when had serious conflicts, we would re-prioritize, and what didn't get done on deadline we would eat the consequences if that meant getting even more essential stuff done (especially in emergency situations).
It's worth 40 points so you could pass it in 10 days late and still get a 75 on it if it was perfect

While what i normally see is one day late goes down half a grade
 

DeSnousa

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nbs2 said:
I don't get it....what's so funny? I mean, he's not going to be unreasonable with lateness. Your pride in your work should motivate you to turn stuff in, but when you have unavoidable conflicts, it is nice to know that there is some flex. At work, we when had serious conflicts, we would re-prioritize, and what didn't get done on deadline we would eat the consequences if that meant getting even more essential stuff done (especially in emergency situations).
When you compare it to my other subjects, where they deduct 50% a day it is funny, I'm not trying to abuse the system and like I said it's being handed in on time :)
 

DeSnousa

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PlaceofDis said:
generous teacher. sweet.:)
It's a first year introduction course, I believe the lecturer meant for us all to pass, while we where getting used to university life. He is a legend and great teacher, will being considering more philosophy courses because it is relevant to my area of interest and because he has a great way of teaching :)
 

realityisterror

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Geeez... I'm only in 10th grade, and a day late on a project/essay for me is 25% off. 2 days is 50%. 3 days and it's a 0.

Also, if you're not at school on the due date, so it's assumed you're skipping even if you are sick. That said, if your assignment doesn't make it school anyway (email, parent drop off, with a friend, etc.), it counts as a day late.

My English teacher was particularly anal about this. Weekends counted too, and that means you have to take it to her house or email it. She checks the email's date to make sure she received before your scheduled class period would have ended on a normal day... :rolleyes:
I'm glad she's not my teacher anymore...
 

PlaceofDis

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DeSnousa said:
It's a first year introduction course, I believe the lecturer meant for us all to pass, while we where getting used to university life. He is a legend and great teacher, will being considering more philosophy courses because it is relevant to my area of interest and because he has a great way of teaching :)
well then hes doing his job if your learning and he is generating interest in the subject matter.
 

CanadaRAM

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My course's late mark policy - halrious.
What's the spelling reduction policy? ;)


Actually I like that as an adjective

halrity, adv. halrious:
a sudden or unexpected reversal in a relationship, esp. where the subservient party assumes a position of absolute power. Source, A.C. Clarke, "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
 

nbs2

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realityisterror said:
Geeez... I'm only in 10th grade, and a day late on a project/essay for me is 25% off. 2 days is 50%. 3 days and it's a 0.

Also, if you're not at school on the due date, so it's assumed you're skipping even if you are sick. That said, if your assignment doesn't make it school anyway (email, parent drop off, with a friend, etc.), it counts as a day late.

My English teacher was particularly anal about this. Weekends counted too, and that means you have to take it to her house or email it. She checks the email's date to make sure she received before your scheduled class period would have ended on a normal day... :rolleyes:
I'm glad she's not my teacher anymore...
I fell so silly for all those years believing that the real world is always like that...that my boss wouldn't tolerate any sort of lateness, etc.

Lo and behold, emergencies happen. When dealing with the government (state or federal), the penalty for being late is minimal enough that it doesn't hurt, but does force you to go cutting checks. When you have conflicts, your boss knows what is essential to the functioning of the entity and what can wait. Heck - I had a project that I was working on for four months that was originally supposed to be due in one month. But, it wasn't essential and became a minimal priority.

Nothing personal towards the english teachers out there, but what is it with the worst teachers being english teachers? To this day I have ill feelings toward my english teacher from senior year and her comments about the last creative writing assignment of HS. That being said, two years earlier, I had one of my best teachers as an english teacher. Encouraging, educational, motivational...all without trying to bully students around....Sorry about the vent...stressful day.
 

Felldownthewell

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My English teacher this year had a policy that for every day late the paper dropped an entire grade. And I was only a highschool sophmore! I think you got lucky with this guy!
 

atszyman

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-Essays received after the date set for the return of essays will not be marked and will receive zero.
This one is the kicker. If the prof is quick at grading essays you may only have 2-4 days before he gets it back to you and subsequently zeros any submissions.
 

EricNau

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I wasn't even allowed to hand in an essay late. It had to be there at the beginning of class and if it wasn't, you got a zero. Absolutely no exceptions.
 

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I turned in 0 (count 'em) papers less than a week late in my senior english class. Yes, I did fine. :D
 

WinterMute

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Talk about an easy ride...:D

If my students are 1 second over the deadline, they get their work capped at 40% (the passing grade), if they are more that 1 week late (5 working days) then it gets 0%.

This is University policy, we don't get a choice. Extensions require documentary evidence.

I can't stand this idea of "deferred success" that seems to be floating around lately, the truth is that some students simply aren't good enough to receive a degree, and should be failed. Sadly it's also true that UK Unis allow resits and retakes and you have 7 years to complete an Honours degree.
 

thedude110

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WinterMute said:
I can't stand this idea of "deferred success" that seems to be floating around lately, the truth is that some students simply aren't good enough to receive a degree, and should be failed.
Interested in this, as my colleagues (and administration) have been orbiting the same idea. When you say "good enough," how are you drawing that definition? Not able, not motivated (intrinsically or extrinsically) or some combination of the two? Is "good enough" standardized at your university, or is "good enough" an assumed standard that's actually subjective across the body of the faculty?

Moreover, how much responsibility do your colleagues take for the students not being "good enough?" Does every student have the capacity to demonstrate their intelligence in such a way that reflects a definition of "good enough?" Or does your university demand that very specific intelligences (such as writing or memorization rather than performance) be manifested?
 

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MongoTheGeek said:
I had a teacher in HS with that philosophy. There is no turning in late. He said in the real world if FedEx messes up the delivery by 5 minutes and your bid on the DoD contract didn't make it in on time, oh well, Martin Marietta just got it, better luck next time.
So what's with the weekly "UPS/FedEx/DHL/XYZ Carrier sucks!!1" posts? :D
 

MongoTheGeek

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So what's with the weekly "UPS/FedEx/DHL/XYZ Carrier sucks!!1" posts? :D
All I know is where I work and it ABSOLUTELY has to be there we hand carry the whatever to the Delta Terminal, and it is carried by Flight Attendants and airline personnel to where-ever where we have a courier pick it up at the counter and carry to the client.