After looking at all my options I finally made a decision on my son's computer for college (architecture major). Would love to have the Retina screen but just too much money! I compared a '11 refurb at a great price vs a new '12-it was a hard decision!! Save $350 or go with latest-greatest specs? I went with the new '12 MBP 15 inch with 750 gb hard drive and 4 gig memory. I plan on upgrading to 12-16 gig memory myself. I decided since this was the last computer I'm buying him and it needs to last 4-6 years that the latest version was a smart buy. The USB 3.0 was a big factor since he needs to back up his work a regular basis and faster backups is nice. Plus the new graphics specs were a big plus as well. He used his education discount plus gets the $100 iTunes card-good deal! I found a couple of good deals on memory online but will check throughout the summer before he goes off to school. Thanks for all the great tips and help on this forum!!