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Interesting, it seems that for the first time ever, a live virus attachment reached my (FastMail) inbox.

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:19 AM
From: ed@membled.com
Subject: Mail Authentication

Protected message is attached.


Attachment file: encrypted_msg01.zip (40k)

Now if I open the .zip file, I get this file: data.rtf[followed by 71 spaces].scr
Typical windows virus message. Stay alert nevertheless, and report them straight to whichever government agencies investigate senders of viruses.
 
During 9.2 and a short stint using ICQ, I did have a trojan infect my Mac, and over night, a few hundred thousand emails had been sent out using my email..... it was scary, and sad, and I was mad for a short time. Though I got over it, and never used that program again!
 
brobson said:
At any event, your Mac cannot be infected by any known Bagle or Beagle worms. All of these Windows worms spoof email addresses, so that bounces and Mailer Daemon warnings go to the spoofed address, not to the infected computer.

Yikes that's a lot of words.
Brenda :confused: :eek:


Then let's simplify it:

1. You can NOT be infected by ANY Windows-specific virus on Mac OS X.

2. Virtually all of these recent virus/worm/trojan (yes, they are different things) outbreaks work in a similar manner:
a. Victim must be running Windows
b. Victim must be using MS Outlook or MS Outlook Express for email
c. Victim frequently must be using MS Internet Explorer for browser
d. Virus exploits vulnerabilities in IE AND Outlook AND Windows to infect that machine.
e. Virus goes through the Victim's address book in Outlook/Outlook Express/Windows, and sends itself TO people in the address book pretending to be FROM someone ELSE in the address book.

3. People running virus scanners on mailservers (as I do) may have them set up to auto-notify the sender if a virus is discovered (I used to do this, but no longer). Back when infected documents sent as attachments were the primary means of virus propagation, this worked well -- it told people what the problem was so that they could clean up their act and know why their mail did not go through. For the last 2 or more years, however, this notification has caused more problems than it's solved, because the notification goes to who the infected mail PRETENDS to be from, not the actual victim.

4. Therefore, the victim here is someone who has you in their address book. The virus with which they are infected (a bagle variant) sent itself TO other people pretending to be FROM you, which led to the chain of events which you experienced.

5. Your AOL password being compromised is a different matter.

There are NO viruses for OS X.

Do you take weekly doses of chloroquine, pyrimethamine or halofantrin to prevent malaria? Why not? A mosquito infected with malaria *may* find it's way to you, so be prepared! Smart if you live in Africa or South America, dumb if you live in North America or Europe. The risk approaches zero, so the drugs are a waste.

IF any virus risk appears for OS X, then antivirus software (Sophos is the best) would be appropriate. Since there are NO viruses for OS X, don't wory about it.
 
big said:
Please dont be so blind, just because you love Apple so much....


Don't patronise me, and be sure you know what you're talking about before posting links to discredited stories. The thing mentioned in that link was proof-of-concept trojan (not a virus) that was never 'in the wild'. It was largely hype by Intego: (link to Wired article on the topic)

When you have 15 years of serious systems/security administration and IT management experience across 4 OS platforms, get back to me. I'm sure you'll be better equipped to discuss this topic then.

I stand by everything in my previous post. If the original poster of this thread has any questions, I'll be glad to discuss them.
 
FINE FINE FINE, you win
there are no UNIX viruses.., never will be, never have been. You guys can all go stick your head in the sand. I will not be back. We're dealing with a hurricane anyways. Man, I remember when we could discuss issues on this board everyone not get so pissy
 
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