My first website

brsboarder

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I'm looking to create my first personal page, but have no clue how to do anything. I have the website brandonstein.web1000.com but now its just displaying an ad. Anyways, I copied the source of a different website, and tried using fetch just to upload and see if I get anything. It uploaded but when i went to my website, I didnt get anything. Can someone help? Or, perhaps, create a new personal site for me that literally just says my name, and tell me the steps so that I can see it at that webpage. Thanks
 

tech4all

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brsboarder said:
Anyways, I copied the source of a different website, and tried using fetch just to upload and see if I get anything. It uploaded but when i went to my website, I didnt get anything.
Probably because the website's source code includes linked files that display on the site. Copying the source code alone won't give you the same results. For instance, you won't get any images to display. The source indicates an image should be displayed thats located in .com/images/....but it can't find the image. So that could be a reason why you didn't see anything. Although you should have been able to see any text that may have been on the site, just not formatted the same way or something.

Aside from that, do you have any experience in HTML or web authoring apps such as Dreamweaver, GoLive?
 

brsboarder

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I do not have any experience w/ any of the listed programs, I have seen html and understand that there are different commands that do different things, bold text etc, but that is all I know. I do only want to create a simple page perhaps with photo's etc and eventually I will get to the point of designing things. I do have experience with photoshop though, thanks for your help
 

feyd_ehway

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Full Service Is What You Need

i dont know the isp you are using but if its your first web site i would recomend paying a bit more for a full service one. my first (and still use for one of my projects) is ipower web - they have free phone and chat support.
like previously noted, the file directory can be different for every site/isp provider.
and i use dreamweaver but a lot of newbies like frontpage (ive never really used it and i guess youll have to find a pc...???).
good luck
-feyd
 

plinden

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Before paying any money getting a full service hosting service, first learn how to program in HTML.

You can do this by writing HTML files on your own Mac/PC and viewing the pages with a web browser. Go to http://www.w3schools.com/ and follow the tutorials. You don't even need to set up a web server (e.g. Apache) but you could do that and learn a bit more about how the internet works. I wouldn't advise allowing access to the outside world though, since that involves opening a port through whatever firewall you have, and that makes you just a bit more vulnerable.

Once you have your website looking the way you want to, follow the steps that your web hosting service must provide on how to upload it. Usually this involves ftp'ing the files.
 

pulsewidth947

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Webmonkey is a good place to start learning the basics of HTML. Personally, I make websites from a design point of view, not a programming pov, so I prefer to use Dreamweaver to do most of the coding for me.

It's important to know the main tags within HTML, but for me using Dreamweaver (or even m$ Front Page) is a lot more time effective than hand coding a website...

Gives me more time to experiment with coding in Flash instead!!
 

ldburroughs

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pulsewidth947 said:
Webmonkey is a good place to start learning the basics of HTML. Personally, I make websites from a design point of view, not a programming pov, so I prefer to use Dreamweaver to do most of the coding for me.

It's important to know the main tags within HTML, but for me using Dreamweaver (or even m$ Front Page) is a lot more time effective than hand coding a website...

Gives me more time to experiment with coding in Flash instead!!
I am always embarrased to admit this but I have been using FrontPage for about three years now. Putting it that way sort of makes me feel like I'm in Microsoft Anonymous. Anyway, I've learned a lot about the coding from working in split mode. You can see what you are creating and actually work in that mode if you prefer or you can work directly with the code. I started out with a basic site and have modified it so much that it hardly resembles the original creation. Some recommend working directly with html and learning it the hard way and I would say that is great for someone who will be doing this as something more than just a hobby like myself. Dreamweaver is a great solution as well but I couldn't afford that program when I was first gettting started. FrontPage was less than $100 so it worked for me. I also host my site at myhosting.com ($9.95 a month for 5GB bandwidth and 250 MB of space), although there are so many others to choose from. I've just been there since I started and haven't had a reason to switch. Also, I purchased my domain rights from godaddy.com and had them direct my site to myhosting's web servers. That saved a little money on the domain name. You can get it for much less than $10 a year so don't waste your money. I've seen some charge more than $20 for a year but it adds up if you buy it for an extended period of time.

Here is my personal site: www.magpoc.com. Again, it is just a hobby and is meant for posting pictures of my daughter so her relatives can watch her grow up ... they're in the Philippines. I've had very little time to devote to it over the years because I've been more focused on law school but it has served its purpose very well for me. The sky is really the limit for you and it will ultimately depend on what your goals are for your site.

By the way, I created my site on a PC three years ago and I'm sure there are some equivalent programs for the mac that work well. Dreamweaver is a fantasic program but I haven't had the need to switch programs either. I'm using FrontPage 2003 and it works well for the PC. It is very intuitive and user friendly. Dreamweaver and others like it are a bit more advanced and will require a steeper learning curve. Good luck with your site.
 

patrickq

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In similar situation to yourself, no knowledge of how to set up website, but wanting to be able to do so myself.
Thanks 'plinden' for your link to www.w3schools.com - absolutely brilliant.
Can't believe that at last I have a grip on how a site is built, within minutes of following through their basic Html tutorial I had actually managed to set up some sample text and coloured background in IE5 on my computer. Now this may sound no big deal, but I have avoided doing Html for years and had no idea about what it all meant ... now it already seems so simple, I can't wait to get something up for real.
'brsboarder', if you haven't checked out above yet do so now, you'll be able to replace the ad page I have just seen on your website within the hour ... well, you'll have to allow for your host to get it up ... so maybe you have already done.
I checked webmonkey as well, looked good, but I suspect a lot of the info may be outdated, w3schools seems to be covering latest stuff and like I said so easy to follow.
 

revenuee

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Sep 13, 2003
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buy a teach yourself book


"Sams Teach yourself HTML"
"A Visual Quick Start Guide to HTML" <-- this is a fantastic series of help books -- i got one For final cut pro 1.2 (wow i guess i have been doing this for a while)

people swear by the " ... For Dummies" series of books - i've read a few, i have one on Real Basic <- they are better for reference then anything else

I really like "The Complete Idiots Guide To ..." (haven't read the HTML one but the other ones are pretty good)

you should be rolling with a basic, functioning webpage within an hour if you customize the tutorials and examples to your needs as you are doing it.

NOTICE -- i said FUNCTIONING, you won't be getting 6 figure contracts with any companies for webdesign projects based on it ...

GOOD LUCK
 

Chaszmyr

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brsboarder said:
I do have experience with photoshop though, thanks for your help
You can actually make a webpage almost entirely in Photoshop/ImageReady (comes with Photoshop) if you are inclined to do that... It's not the best way, but it can yield interesting results sometimes.
 

munkle

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If you just want a personal site and can't be bothered to mess around with HTML/XHTML/CSS etc etc then it might be worth thinking about signing up with one of the many free blogging services out there.

Check out WordPress. You'll need somewhere to host the site and make sure that you meet the requirements (most webhosting packages will). From there you can choose from different themes or hack away at a current one. Sometimes it's easier to hack a site through trial and error to get it how you want than to build one from scratch, especially if you have limited knowledge of HTML.

There's also Blogger, brought to you by Google, so you know it's easy to set up. You don't even need any webhosting, as they'll host it for you.

Just something to think about.
 
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