my g4 dual is dying....what do i do

[crazzyeddie]

Re: Re: my g4 dual is dying....what do i do

Originally posted by MacRAND [would not mix Seagate (good) with Maxtor (???)].[/B]

Seagate and Maxtor are the same company now- the drive platters are exactly the same.

 

[MacRAND]

my g4 dual is dying....what do i do

Originally posted by Nermal
Maxtor's rubbish. Had 2 of them, and they've both screwed up (in the same system).

Unfortunately, this is what I have heard rather consistently from numerous others; but, couldn't say so myself since I've stayed away from Maxtors and have had no personal experience.🙄

 

[mj_1903]

Actually, the company analogy is kinda back to front. If the CEO (the interface) is knocked off, the company keeps on running, unlike real life where the CEO can have massive affects.

Basically, a kernel panic happens because of three reasons. One is bad programming in the kernel (early 10.3 builds had this). Second is the operating system asking for RAM that is not owned by that particular task, so it pukes (should be a way of fixing that...but it would probably degrade CPU performance massively) and then there is natural phenomenon, like heat and cosmic rays.

As for your issue, I am guessing that a CPU has some issues if the RAM has not effect. Do you notice it on particular tasks? Do you notice it only under heavy load? We may even be able to work out which CPU it is before Apple does, which is a Good Thing.

 

[MacRAND]

Dying?

Originally posted by mj_1903
As for your issue, I am guessing that a CPU has some issues if the RAM has no effect.
Do you notice it on particular tasks?
Do you notice it only under heavy load?
We may even be able to work out which CPU it is before Apple does, which is a Good Thing.

Yes, more and more, it sounds like one of your CPU chips is "sick" and like you said, it may be "dying".
Plan: Apple for repair. If fixed, keep it. Not? return it, dump it fast.
Make sure you have plenty of warranty within which to work so you don't end up eating it.🙄

 

[dabirdwell]

My dual G4 too...

I posted something like this a day or two ago. My dual 867 has been kernel panicking and acting weird in general with a combination of an added 1GB RAM chip and Western Digital 200 GB HD with the latest Panther.

Certain applications don't respond, some don't work well or crash. I made the new drive my boot disk for Panther and wiped the original 60 to use for a small video scratch disk (I did this to avoid a size cap on iPhoto and iTunes imposed by the 60GB).

 

[trainguy77]

try running it in 9, then check to see if it heats up like when it is in 10. if it does heat up in 9 then bring it in to get it check(it means it is hardware realated)

🙄 hope this works

 

[jefhatfield]

Re: ive backed up

Originally posted by nico_rep_nico
i have backed up (actually on my ipod) and i have reinstalled panther

os x pather 10.3.0 is known for a lot of quirky issues like kernal panics galore and crashing

that could be your primary problem...some have returned to jaguar os x 10.2.x

but i hope panther 10.3.1 could solve your issues...sounds more software related to me and like a previous poster said, backing up and reinstalling could do the trick...it saved my ibook (rev a blueberry) when it became unstable and started acting like windows 95

and when you put in an os, try jaguar or panther 10.3.1

 

[rjrufo]

Originally posted by mj_1903
Actually, the company analogy is kinda back to front. If the CEO (the interface) is knocked off, the company keeps on running, unlike real life where the CEO can have massive affects.

That depends on who you are implying the CEO is. As you put it, the interface (GUI) is the CEO, so if the CEO is whacked, the whole corporation will start failing.

If, as in my analogy, the user is the CEO, and gets knocked off, the corporation could still run normaly, assuming that the CEO is knocked off by outside factors (not corporate related). If the CEO is knocked off by factors within the corporation, then it will fail from the inside out. The corporation will be idle without the direction of the CEO, but will still function. If the GUI is the CEO, very little will get done in the first place because it just sits there looking pretty.

Ok, I just has visions of Tron while writing this...🙄

 

[dabirdwell]

Somebody, I think Sparkley, suggested the hardware test disc. This worked for me, it isolated the new RAM as the error causing factor. You may want to try that and see if your G4 has a problem with any of the new hardware.

Now if I can only get iPhoto to work again..


Maybe another install, oh boy.

 

[law guy]

heat

The dual g4 1.42 is a warm computer inside. Certainly a healthy amount of heated air blowing out the back of mine right now. When I close the door to the study, it functions like a little space heater. Still - I don't know what's "hot" on yours - just really warm air inside the case? That sounds normal. Also - I note that adding add'l internal drives appears to cut down on the ability for air to circulate in the 1.42 case - could you add those in external enclosures instead? Although it's not supposed to be a problem, I wouldn't want to add anything else that produced any heat or cut down on air circulation to the inside of my enclosure - it's warm enough in there.

Good luck isolating the problem.

 

[trainguy77]

I know that there is one program in which it will run for 12 hours or so, testing your CPU and RAM. I can't remember what it is called? anyone? I remember it runs on X and is made to run testing homemade computers. I also keeps tabs on the CPU heat