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from the sounds of it, sounds like would be better off with a phone thats not a smart phone, one of those old style ones. whats the point of having an iPhone with old software and not actually using any of the decent features.... waste!!
 
Don't upgrade to anything higher than 2.2.1.

I'm still on 2.2.1 and it runs great. It's so perfectly smooth and quick, it's almost like having an iPhone 4 (without multitasking and copy and paste of course).

Anyway... I'm happy for now.

My iPhone 3G is starting to show it's age on the outside though... I've got a ton of cracks, scratches and general wear 'n' tear on the outside of it.

Still makes and receives phone calls perfectly though.

Just thought I'd let you know. If you think 3.1.3 is fast, you should downgrade to 2.2.1. It's night and day. Believe me.

Or you could just use 4.0+ and turn off the spotlight indexing.
 
pointless activity, just upgrade the phone. what a frigging headache instead of two hundred dollar purchase. I don't get it.

i know money is tight everywhere, but this business of criticizing Apple over 3G support / trying to keep a 3 year old smartphone relevant is just dumb.

There is a difference between you being left out because you want to and Apple forcing a software update on you that kills your phone. And please don't give me the "you don't have to update" crap. We geeks know what's going on. The avg. joe will get the update and immediately upgrade. It is not unreasonable to expect your phone to continue functioning properly after you do a software update.

If Apple found out that it can't run reasonably well, then they should have left the 3G out. I saw a friend's 3G running 4.0 and couldn't believe my eyes. There is no way in hell Apple thinks this is acceptable. Something must definitely have slipped in there causing that slow down. And I am right. Because Apple are working on fixing this.
 
Don't upgrade to anything higher than 2.2.1.

I'm still on 2.2.1 and it runs great. It's so perfectly smooth and quick, it's almost like having an iPhone 4 (without multitasking and copy and paste of course).

Anyway... I'm happy for now.

My iPhone 3G is starting to show it's age on the outside though... I've got a ton of cracks, scratches and general wear 'n' tear on the outside of it.

Still makes and receives phone calls perfectly though.

Just thought I'd let you know. If you think 3.1.3 is fast, you should downgrade to 2.2.1. It's night and day. Believe me.

You're really missing out. You are essentially using $100 of a $500 iPhone where a power-user on 4.0.2 like myself is using all $500 of the device. Go buy a Sumsung flip-phone.
 
You're really missing out. You are essentially using $100 of a $500 iPhone where a power-user on 4.0.2 like myself is using all $500 of the device. Go buy a Sumsung flip-phone.

I'm not a power user anymore. I don't care about apps, I don't care about games. I just want my iPhone to be quick and reliable. I don't want to get a "flip-phone" cause those are painful to text on. You have to admit, the iPhone is simply the best phone to text with. I can fly on this virtual keyboard.

Again, the phone is way past it's prime. I'm not using it a smartphone, I'm using it like the ultimate go-phone with unlimited texting. I don't have a data plan and I really don't need one.

The only reason I returned my iPhone 4 is because of the antenna issue. I realize that not everyone has the problem because it depends on where you live, but I do have the problem and I'd rather have a phone that works no matter what, than a flashy phone that makes me have to re-train myself to hold it differently than any other phone out there.
 
The only reason I returned my iPhone 4 is because of the antenna issue. I realize that not everyone has the problem because it depends on where you live, but I do have the problem and I'd rather have a phone that works no matter what, than a flashy phone that makes me have to re-train myself to hold it differently than any other phone out there.

its not just dependent on where you live, its luck of the draw if you get one that doesn't have the issue. i live in poor signal area, but no antenna issue.
 
its not just dependent on where you live, its luck of the draw if you get one that doesn't have the issue. i live in poor signal area, but no antenna issue.

Where's your evidence to back this up? Do you know anyone in your area that has the issue? What if it has something to do with the quality of the signal AT&T is putting out and not just how strong the signal is. You can have a really strong signal and it could suck, or you could have a weak signal and have no problems. I think it comes down to the quality of the signals and the frequencies the service provider is using.

I believe that you don't have the issue, but I haven't seen an iPhone 4 around HERE that DOESN'T have the antenna issue. That's all I'm saying.

To me, I think it's based on the quality of the service and it's exaggerated with the design of the iPhone 4.

I have no evidence either, but if you can provide some evidence that some phones in the same place have no issue, I'll change my mind.
 
I'm convinced that OP is the one and only TheSpaz.

What with the 2.2.1 talk and the "still the best phone to text with" (TheSpaz would always say that), I'm almost certain this is TheSpaz.

But there's one problem, TheSpaz was extremely OCD and the OP's 3G is really beaten up, with "a ton of cracks, scratches and general wear 'n' tear on the outside of it."
 
Where's your evidence to back this up? Do you know anyone in your area that has the issue? What if it has something to do with the quality of the signal AT&T is putting out and not just how strong the signal is. You can have a really strong signal and it could suck, or you could have a weak signal and have no problems. I think it comes down to the quality of the signals and the frequencies the service provider is using.

I believe that you don't have the issue, but I haven't seen an iPhone 4 around HERE that DOESN'T have the antenna issue. That's all I'm saying.

To me, I think it's based on the quality of the service and it's exaggerated with the design of the iPhone 4.

I have no evidence either, but if you can provide some evidence that some phones in the same place have no issue, I'll change my mind.

well my neighbour got his iphone 4 at launch, it had the issue in my area, he got his swapped for a week 31, no issue anymore.
 
well my neighbour got his iphone 4 at launch, it had the issue in my area, he got his swapped for a week 31, no issue anymore.

Then why is it such a secret? People should know that it's a defect then and not a design issue.

I think this is something major if it's true. Why don't more people know about this?
 
Then why is it such a secret? People should know that it's a defect then and not a design issue.

I think this is something major if it's true. Why don't more people know about this?

it's no secret, people on here have been saying they have no problems with their iPhones for a while, they just get shot down by negative people claiming its all lies, as seems to be the nature of this forum. the naysayers shout the loudest....
 
it's no secret, people on here have been saying they have no problems with their iPhones for a while, they just get shot down by negative people claiming its all lies, as seems to be the nature of this forum. the naysayers shout the loudest....

I mean, how are we supposed to know it's not the area they live in? Has Apple come out and said that some iPhones are defective? No, they said, don't hold it that way and here's a free case.

Apple's stance and the media's stance make it out to be the way the iPhone 4 is designed and not that "some are defective".

If what you're saying is true, then I think anyone with a defective iPhone 4 should get a free replacement for a non-defective one.

Naysayers are "naysaying" because everyone is all talk and no hard evidence. We have some people saying that it's just some iPhones, others saying that it's all iPhones, even others saying that it's the area you live in, and most people are saying that it's just the way it was engineered.

Someone who has a working iPhone 4 in an area where another iPhone 4 doesn't work, they should send it into Apple to show them that it's not all iPhones and it's not location specific.
 
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