My iPhone 6s got ruined. Fix and keep or buy iPhone 7?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by NICKXXXXXX, May 13, 2017.

  1. NICKXXXXXX macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2014
    so unfortunately I dropped my phone in the toilet and the day after it broke down. I'll send it for repair and pay a self risk to my insurance company for them to fix it/replace it but I've been thinking about perhaps selling it and getting a 7plus instead. My initial plan before the phone got ruined was to get the iPhone 8 when it drops because it must come a new iPhone this year I'm guessing? I can't help to think that the phone would of survived if I had an iPhone 7 since it is water resistant... what would of y'all guys done? Wish there were more concrete rumors on it. They don't seems to have solved the Touch ID issue yet. Anyone know how Samsung did?
  2. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    IPhone 7 is rated IP67, which means it splash resistant. In the case that you dropped your iPhone in the toilet, the iPhone was submerged in water and the iPhone 7 is not rated for that. Splash Resistance is more of a safety precaution being in the rain for example.

    And as far as touch ID goes, there really is no such thing as a 'Concrete rumor.' We don't know what Apple is going to do with touch ID being on the front or back of the iPhone.
  3. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

    Stefan johansson

    Apr 13, 2017
    The only really durable phones that's in some way is at least close to be waterproof,is the CAT smartphones (android) or the long discontinued Ericsson "shark fin".
  4. NICKXXXXXX thread starter macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2014
    It's just splash resistant?? What about videos like this showing it's water resistance? you can clearly see how the 6s takes in water after a while while nothing at all happens with the 7? There are a lot more videos than this on YouTube as well.
  5. BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    As has been stated, the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are not waterproof. Videos like you posted should not be viewed as anything less than what Apple has stated. Just because phones have been submerged, that doesn't mean they will not have problems afterward. The Apple warranty does not cover water damage.
  6. bufffilm Suspended


    May 3, 2011
    Don't confuse a YouTube video with what Apple will warranty.
  7. Tthomas612 macrumors 65816


    Aug 24, 2013
    While I agree with what most of you all are saying...

    I do believe an iPhone 7 would survive a splash in the toilet. I know the IP rating is only 67, but I still believe a splash in the toilet wouldn't kill the iPhone 7.

    As long as you grab it right out when it fell in the then op I do believe you're right and the iPhone 7 would have been fine.
  8. kevink2 macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    IP67 compliant, which is up to 1m of submersion. Note, I did NOT test this for snorkeling on my vacation :)
  9. Arcontia macrumors regular

    Apr 6, 2017
    Correct, it actually says/suggests it can survive submerged in up to 1m of (toilet) water for 30 minutes. The 6s however, nope.

    Not guaranteed, as mentioned, its a safety measure rather than for you lot to play with it - we can't forget that Apples Warranty did not change with the introduction of the iPhone 7, meaning if your device does die from water, then thats $1000+AUD down the drain! I do feel comfortable using my iPhone 7 Plus in heavy rain though for relatively brief moments, and this was NOT the case with the 6s.

    Anyways as for you OP, you know what, I was once in a similar position, I'm a former 6s owner and I upgraded to the iPhone 7 Plus using the iPhone trade in program. I dont regret any bit of it. The new dual cameras can be enough of a reason to upgrade on its own, but beyond that I appreciate the sleek Jet Black colouring, (and yes I can see some of it, Apple Silicone Case leaves the bottom exposed ;) ) the stereo speaker system, and Wide Colour as I'm an avid photographer. The real selling point of this phone though for me would be the battery life. Id say its comparable to the iPads, functionality wise - doesn't buckle under heavy pressure, unlike the 6s. Think about the hardware too - iPhone 6s is already almost 2 years time flies.

    If you have any other questions about 6s vs 7 Plus, feel free to PM me. :)
  10. NICKXXXXXX thread starter macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2014
    My plan was actually to get the 8 as soon as it drops with the trade in program. We recently got that service here in sweden. If I start using it now however it means I'll have to have the iPhone 7 for a year before getting the 8. That's why I'm thinking about keeping the 6s after they've repaired it. They will most likely just replace it with a new one so the battery life would be improved again
  11. Arcontia macrumors regular

    Apr 6, 2017
    Ohh ok well in your case then I'd wait - that was my plan too, to wait for the 8 / 7s whatever, and then go from there, but I'm off for a month and a half long trip to Europe in a month, and I wanted the upgraded Camera and battery life already.

    In your case though if you can wait, by all means go for it - the 7 is more than halfway through its flagship cycle by now. That goes for anyone else too - the closer you outright buy the 7 getting closer to September or October, the more you're paying full price for a year old phone. Whether or not the 8 will be delayed as recent rumours suggest however, thats another story ^^
  12. Tthomas612 macrumors 65816


    Aug 24, 2013
    I agree with waiting on the 8 for your reasons, but one thing some.people doesn't realize is how much of an upgrade the 7 actually is from the 6s.

    A lot of people will try to.say that the upgrade is neglible, but there actually is more to it then that.

    On top of the water resistance rating ... There's also the cameras in both phones that are upgrades. On top of that you also have the monster of a SOC the A10 fusion...

    While at this point in time if I were you I would definitely try to fix my 6s, but a lot of people think of the 7 has a transitional device and it's actually a lot more than that.
  13. Arcontia macrumors regular

    Apr 6, 2017
    I completely agree with Thomas, it's just the media goes a long way shaping people's minds...but I have found that iPhone 7 Plus' features do sound negligible on paper but in reality they go a long way.

    Eg, a 25% brighter screen sounds dull......but in reality, I live in Sydney where it's so sunny, I can actually clearly see my phone screen in harsh sunlight. That wasn't the case with the 6s, instead I'd see my own face reflected. Wide colour is great if you're a photographer.

    The stereo Speakers make iPhone 6/6s Speakers sound cheap, uninspiring and incomplete - they are wonderful for when you're lying in bed and you're watching an episode of your favourite Sitcom or whatever, just the sound, it's that good. And it's LOUD.

    I like the haptics too, it becomes so satisfying when you do things like open control centre, notification centre, scrolling music, goes on, and you feel a thud. Makes the phone feel more mechanical and interactive. In fact I'm so used to it, it even feels a little cheap now that I don't get that feedback on my iPad. And as for the new home button, it's very cleverly programmed too.

    OIS now on both phones means the low light shots are drastically improved - I was stunned with the difference.

    And honestly it goes on, but I really agree with Thomas said - if you do upgrade to a 7 Plus, you will not regret it. :) A lot of people also tried to tell me the upgrade would be a waste of time LOL but yeah
  14. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    You would go with a waterproof case if you'd like instead.
    I wouldn't risk getting it wet and relying on the water resistant rating.
    That would be a very expensive risk.
  15. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    Yes. The iPhone 7 is NOT Waterproof. As stated, it's splash resistant only, which is not a permanent condition . Listed below is for your reading pleasure:

    You do realize those "Tests" are subjecting the iPhone to water submersion, which the iPhone is not rated for.

    YouTube doesn't guarantee your iPhone 7 will be without defects when submerged in water.

    You should research all the threads on here where others have subjected their iPhone to water submersion and find out the end result what happened to their iPhone.
  16. cambookpro macrumors 603


    Feb 3, 2010
    United Kingdom
    In all fairness, Apple did show someone falling into a swimming pool with their iPhone at the keynote when announcing it. Not saying by any means people should rely on it being water resistant or that it would be covered by warranty, but I'd say it's very likely that the phone would survive a quick dip in the toilet!
  17. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    I Saw that commercial, but if I recall correctly, didn't someone make the argument that the iPhone 7 was never fully submerged or went under water in the pool when the actor fell in?

    I think every situation will be different. But it's all irrelevant , because the FTC/IEC rates the iPhone 7 At IP67. So why risk it? And at Splash resistance is meant for accidental exposure, not prolonged water submersion.
  18. cambookpro macrumors 603


    Feb 3, 2010
    United Kingdom
    True, but I somehow doubt once he's halfway submerged and holding it that there's any hope for the poor iPhone ;)

    Whilst to the letter of Apple's guidelines, you're correct, you have to say that it's likely they are covering their backs with the support document. The phones are IPx7 rated, so whilst not designed for prolonged submersion, must be fully functional after 30 minutes at 1m depth. I just think whilst you shouldn't expect to be able to go swimming with the phone, it's perfectly acceptable to assume that this feature would save it from a short accidental drop in a basin or toilet.

    It's all a bit counterfactual as the conditions which caused the OP's 6s to break can never be exactly recreated, but if I had to put money on it, I'd say if it was an iPhone 7 it would've survived.
  19. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    I Think there are more threads on here in worst-case scenario's with someone that either accidentally exposed their iPhone 7 to water or intentionally, either of which, turns out to have the device failing one way or another. But the whole point is, is not to rely on some YouTube video showing somebody doing something with their iPhone underwater, that's not recommended even if it survives.

    And then usually a thread follows shortly after, with the OP saying "Well YouTube video showed other iPhone 7's underwater, why didn't mine survive?" Bottom line is, it's not worth it and treat the iPhone 7 water resistance as nothing more for accidental exposure, not intentional.
  20. NICKXXXXXX thread starter macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2014
    Thanks for all the answers guys! Since there's so many replies I'll just summarize everything in this post...

    You are right that I perhaps shouldn't rely on the YouTube video too much, but I think y'all misunderstood me a little. I don't have any intentions to like go swim with the phone or shower with it etc. but we all are humans and we make mistakes. My most recent one was dropping my phone in the toilet hehe. What I was trying to get at was that since the iPhone 7 still performed so much better in that test it should indicate something. In this situation that it might of have survived 2 seconds in the toilet unlike my 6s.

    As for getting the 7 now or wait for the 8 I'll wait for the 8. Someone pointed out that the 7 is already a year old but you are still paying the same price as when it came. I can wait for the 8. IMO the normal iPhone has the perfect overall size. It's just the screen that I feel is just a little too small. I've had a plus before (6 plus) but sold it since I thought it was too big. If the normal iPhone was just a screen like the 8 is supposed to be it would be perfect. I couldn't reach the top corner on the plus without kind letting go of the grip of the phone which was annoying. So I'll wait for the 8.

    I always use my iPad anyways when I'm at home. I've only used my phone at home for Snapchat, tinder and instagram. I saw now though that these apps apparently exists on the iPad as well but they are not optimized at all. I can live with it though. Will probably grab the next iPad that comes as well. That upgrade program seems really good because I won't have to worry anymore about finding a buyer for my phone etc. I'll just get the new iPhone/iPad every year
  21. Radon87000 macrumors 604

    Nov 29, 2013
    Wait for the 8. Its going to be a huge upgrade
  22. flyinmac macrumors 68040


    Sep 2, 2006
    United States
    As for rain, I've never considered the weather when someone calls me. And I've answered my phone and talked on it numerous times in the rain.

    Likewise, I've texted in the rain. Looked up stuff on the internet in the rain. Etc.

    Not that I'd just decide to stand in the rain for no reason with my phone. But if I'm in the rain, it's never stopped me from using my phone.

    And my phone is just the plain iPhone 5.

    As for dropping it in the toilet... two things...

    First: How strange it is that this seems to happen so often. I'd have never thought of that to be a problem if I hadn't read it so many times. What have we come to that we can't take a $h|+ anymore without our phone.

    Second: If it happened to me, there's no way I'm touching that phone again. And certainly my hands are not going in after it. I'd just flush it and call it done. And if it wouldn't flush, I'd just use pliers or some tool to fish it out and throw it and the fishing tool straight in the trash.

    For me, there's no way I'd put that toilet water phone to my face. Even if it worked. I wouldn't even invest the time touching it to see if it worked.

    The only useful thing I might do with it afterwards would possibly be to set it on a stick, pour some lighter fluid on it, and see if I could get it to burn and explode itself into the air (naturally pointed towards my neighbor's place).

    Aside from a "will it explode" experiment, I'd call it done. Or... if I still had the box, perhaps inject more nasty stuff into it, then put it back in the box and gift it to whoever annoyed me that day.

    Anyway, when it comes to one iPhone versus the other, I wouldn't count on any rating that isn't warranted by its manufacturer to replace the device.

    Consider hand tools.... if a company says our wrench is the toughest in the world, demonstrates that you can't even break it deliberately with a 200 pound sledge hammer; but they say that they won't warranty damage caused by the same activity, then I'm not buying their tool.

    When it comes to tools, I'll only buy lifetime guaranteed tool that will be replaced no matter why they broke. Even if that tool hasn't been demonstrated to me that it could withstand a butterfly bumping into it.

    My view on the iPhone 7 water resistance is that it's unproven. If Apple felt confident that every iPhone 7 would withstand water, they'd warranty it.

    Additionally the seal on the iPhone 7 has the potential to be more effective on some, and possibly weaker on some individual units.

    Want to feel confident???

    Just walk into a phone store and tell the salesperson that you'll only buy if they demonstrate that it'll survive flushing. And I want them to believe in their product enough for me to randomly grab 10 off the shelf and flush them all.

    My guess is that more than half would fail. The rest, I hope they didn't sell it for more than the cost of say free to the dump. B

    If they all passed by some miracle, I'd buy one, but it would be an untouched (and UNflushed) unit.

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