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I had thought the same thing and bought a modern Android device to try out. While a good phone it just doesn't work for me. For instance, plug into the car's USB input and comes up not recognized. Same thing in my truck. That's just a complete non-starter for me.
THIS^^
Is classed as a FUD post, not really troll post but here to cast doubt in the minds of the weak. I assume that the poster receives a fee per post from some third party such as Samsung, Google et al.
What does that have to do with anything? I'm an Apple product user, not a shareholder. So the amount of people they bring in with their new bells and whistles is of very little consequence to most of us.
What more do you want? I mean sure they can tweak things such as changing default apps and polishing Siri so that it works all the time, but other then things like this I dunno what more could be done.
They won't redesign the iOS in one update because of the 10s of millions of people who uses them, I mean lets forget about us for a second and think about joe consumer and joe consumers mum, they are happy and are not complaining about the lack of features nor are they thinking about innovating the devices, they are must using them as they were intended to be used - in this case as a phone - and it's really just the elitists that do the moaning.
They won't redesign the iOS in one update because of the 10s of millions of people who uses them, I mean lets forget about us for a second and think about joe consumer and joe consumers mum, they are happy and are not complaining about the lack of features nor are they thinking about innovating the devices, they are must using them as they were intended to be used - in this case as a phone - and it's really just the elitists that do the moaning.
TS is right
Thank to Apple making radical changes we got the iPhone. Thanks to Apple making radical changes we got the iPad. Or if you'd like to go back a bit further: thanks to Apple making radical changes, we got the computer mouse.
Apple is doing just fine right now, but I believe - just like the Topic Starter - that iOS 7 needs to be a big upgrade. Those who first got an iOS device in 2011, 2012 or 2013 might still be very happy with iOS 6 and to those people it might not feel stale, boring or old. Why? Because those people, at best, have only used iOS for two years.
I bet, however, that there are still lots of iDevice users from 2007/2008/2009/2010 who feel like Apple has been doing to little on the software front (as in: too little changes in the GUI, little added functionality, etc.).
Apple isn't doing anything radical. They aren't trying out new stuff on the software front. They aren't trying out truly new - at least visible - stuff on the hardware front: for example, take the Retina display. Back in 2010 it was a 'crazy' and extremly 'difficult' thing to create, let alone mass produce: a really thin IPS display with a - at the time - crazy high pixel density. Apple isn't doing that kind off stuff anymore: they are doing safe stuff and the Apple of today won't use technology that hasn't proven itself yet.
The Apple of 2010 - and before - would have been at the front of the line to implement technologies like NFC or LTE. The Apple of today will wait until second or third-generation components of new technologies show up. Personally, I don't really care (yet) about NFC, but it's a petty that Apple isn't pushing for new technology.
I think 2013 will be the year that will show us what kind of a company Apple really is: will they release an exciting new iOS update and exciting new - or even innovative - products, or will they release a boring similar-to-iOS6 iOS 7 update plus iPhones/iPads/iPods with the expected, 'standard-but-nothing-exciting' hardware upgrades (as in: no REAL new features of which you say "I didn't see that coming.")
Also, I guess you all have a point: why should Apple try to improve software (and hardware) and try out radical new things. Research in Motion (BlackBerry) and NOKIA didn't do that and that worked out just fine: they still have the BEST-SELLING and MOST POPULAR phones in the wor... oh, wait.
I'm not with you here. Thanks to Apple making RADICAL changes, we got the iPod.
Thank to Apple making radical changes we got the iPhone. Thanks to Apple making radical changes we got the iPad. Or if you'd like to go back a bit further: thanks to Apple making radical changes, we got the computer mouse.
Apple is doing just fine right now, but I believe - just like the Topic Starter - that iOS 7 needs to be a big upgrade. Those who first got an iOS device in 2011, 2012 or 2013 might still be very happy with iOS 6 and to those people it might not feel stale, boring or old. Why? Because those people, at best, have only used iOS for two years.
I bet, however, that there are still lots of iDevice users from 2007/2008/2009/2010 who feel like Apple has been doing to little on the software front (as in: too little changes in the GUI, little added functionality, etc.).
Apple isn't doing anything radical. They aren't trying out new stuff on the software front. They aren't trying out truly new - at least visible - stuff on the hardware front: for example, take the Retina display. Back in 2010 it was a 'crazy' and extremly 'difficult' thing to create, let alone mass produce: a really thin IPS display with a - at the time - crazy high pixel density. Apple isn't doing that kind off stuff anymore: they are doing safe stuff and the Apple of today won't use technology that hasn't proven itself yet.
The Apple of 2010 - and before - would have been at the front of the line to implement technologies like NFC or LTE. The Apple of today will wait until second or third-generation components of new technologies show up. Personally, I don't really care (yet) about NFC, but it's a petty that Apple isn't pushing for new technology.
I think 2013 will be the year that will show us what kind of a company Apple really is: will they release an exciting new iOS update and exciting new - or even innovative - products, or will they release a boring similar-to-iOS6 iOS 7 update plus iPhones/iPads/iPods with the expected, 'standard-but-nothing-exciting' hardware upgrades (as in: no REAL new features of which you say "I didn't see that coming.")
Also, I guess you all have a point: why should Apple try to improve software (and hardware) and try out radical new things. Research in Motion (BlackBerry) and NOKIA didn't do that and that worked out just fine: they still have the BEST-SELLING and MOST POPULAR phones in the wor... oh, wait.
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If I want to read the New York times I'll go to their website.
Good grief.
Yep, sorry, I thought this was a forum. A discussions board or something like that. What was I thinking?
You are speaking the truth OP.
I wouldn't expect much support from the drones here in these forums but all the new cell phones are starting to push the five inch mark as the new standard.
What Apple needs is Steve Jobs. Steve used to pretty much crush the competition but now there just waning off on their own path.
It feel the same as you OP.
I wouldn't expect much support from the drones here in these forums but all the new cell phones are starting to push the five inch mark as the new standard.
What Apple needs is Steve Jobs. Steve used to pretty much crush the competition but now there just waning off on their own path.
It feel the same as you OP.
They always come back, and then make another thread about how they should have never left, missing their iPhone, and blah blah blah. These threads become tiresome. Ohh well, bye bye!
The average joes ARE complaining. Ever heard of apps? Smartphones are not used primarily as phones anymore, they are internet devices now with general functionality. If you wanted a phone, you can go back to a flip phone which is way less expensive and does calling better than an iPhone.
I may be just a new kid on the block here but I love Apple, I love that if my phone isn't working right I can drive to an apple store(a nominal 15-20 minutes for me) setup an appointment, and either get the problem corrected or the phone replaced(I have AppleCare) Plus, while you wait you can fiddle around on every Apple device there, which for me, fiddling with the iPads is a must every time my parents are there. The only con is once you get into iTunes, and all that you're "trapped" if you go to switch. I've had iDevices my whole life and have never had a major problem that I've had to go to the Apple Store for(knock on wood) Faithful iPhone 4S teenage fanatic/user. Oh they'll be back... They always come back.
But your point about the iPod is 100% wrong:
What Apple device did they "radically" redesign to give us the iPod? They didn't. They INVENTED the genre, they didn't radically change an already existing, genre changing product. If they already had a music player and THEN evolved it into the radically different iPod sure... but only if that product was selling MILLIONS before the "radical" change.
Point being that as long as something is widely accepted, popular, and selling PHENOMENALLY well (the iPhone 5 was sold out for months) there is NO need to institute massive changes. Outside of appeasing a few fanboys.
And if you DO make "radical" redesigns there's always the risk of losing a large portion of your user base if it's too much.
Apple is a business. They don't need to reinvent the iPhone. The iWatch will probably bee the next "game-changer", not anything that's ALREADY changed the game...
No, they won't. The market for huge phones is something they can easily leave to others and still be wildly successful.
Software, not just hardware makes the device.
Aesthetically the iPhone 5 is nigh on perfect. Of course I wouldn't mind a bigger screen but other then that nothing on the market touches it in terms of quality.
iOS however is boring as ****. It's evolved over the years but it just feels stale now. It doesn't match the phone anymore.
Aesthetically the iPhone 5 is nigh on perfect. Of course I wouldn't mind a bigger screen but other then that nothing on the market touches it in terms of quality.
iOS however is boring as ****. It's evolved over the years but it just feels stale now. It doesn't match the phone anymore.
No, they can not ignore the market shift, there is a big market for bigger phones. If they don't Apple's market share will be diluted quickly.
New to Apple aren't you. No they don't have to increase the size to 5 inches, now or in the future. They will sell millions upon millions with the size they have now. Or bigger than 5 inches you post. Good grief, that's in the territory of a tablet, not a phone for goodness sakes.
Do you have proof that the majority are complaining? It doesn't seem so from the amount of iPhones being sold.
There's zero proof to either of the claims you made; that the average Joe's are complaining, and that other cheaper phones make better calls. More like "I heard from a guy, that knows a guy, who is friends with a guy of my brother...and he says"...
Go on some of the Android boards, and see some of the folks complaining of call quality, build quality, and the like. It's the minority not the majority.
Again people calling me out for a fact that even most Apple fans accept, iOS has gone stale, as i said earlier hardware increments are fine but you would be a fool to tell me iOS is not stale. Podcast app: fail, siri: lots of complaints and features are very limited, upgrades are slow, maps: failure for most people. Passbook: hardly used by MOST people because it has updating issues, so few apps support it and people just use the main app instead of passbook. Aside from that what has Apple done in iOS since 2010? Literally nothing, its gone stale and hardware bumps alone wont win Apple any accolades. Hardware aside if the software is old school compared to competition, people will switch. My critics here should man up and accept that iOS 7 needs a radical bump like os 9 to os 10