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Mine ran hot too for several days due to all the indexing. If you have a large Photos collection and icloud folders, it can take several days of indexing. I finally got it to quit by turning off the power saving features and let it run full throttle for about 24 hours.
Reinstalling MacOS or time machine restore restarts the process all over again.
Wish Apple would be more upfront notifying the user rather than making you watch activity monitor to see all the extra syncing hidden apps consuming all the CPU cycles....

After that my MBP ran much quieter with much better battery life. Even when plugged into a 4K monitor.

Too late now it's gone back.

But I'd had it 3 weeks and there were no issues & then all of a sudden this cropped up and wouldn't stop; even after a full reinstall and left for a few days it was still running stupidly hot!
 
I am surprised and sorry to hear about the issues you experienced. I am typing this on my 2020 10th Gen 13" connected to two Dell 4k monitors. I am not doing anything that I would call intensive (Safari with 20 or so tabs, Calendar, two email clients, Photos running in background, etc), but the computer is completely silent in clamshell mode. The fans are not running at all (0 RPM). I wonder what was causing you such issues...
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Too late now it's gone back.

But I'd had it 3 weeks and there were no issues & then all of a sudden this cropped up and wouldn't stop; even after a full reinstall and left for a few days it was still running stupidly hot!
I bet you had a rogue app like Chrome that likes to use up CPU/Memory resources while running. Modern computers with MacOS or windows still fall prey to these things. Activity Monitor is a good app to sniff these out.

Oh well, if I could return my loaded 2020 MBP 13 I would. Already got burned with the G4-Intel Transition and I'm about to get burned again 15 years later. Burn me twice, shame on me...
 
I bet you had a rogue app like Chrome that likes to use up CPU/Memory resources while running. Modern computers with MacOS or windows still fall prey to these things. Activity Monitor is a good app to sniff these out.

Oh well, if I could return my loaded 2020 MBP 13 I would. Already got burned with the G4-Intel Transition and I'm about to get burned again 15 years later. Burn me twice, shame on me...

Nope; when I reinstalled it I didn't add Chrome etc; without it installed the fans were still running away with themselves unfortunately.

There was definitely an issue, so happy for it to go back; not having an £1800 MBP that doesn't work as it should!
 
Been using a 2020 13" 10th gen for about a week or more now, I don't even think I've heard the fan come on once, mind you it's never been hooked up to an external display. Also I don't really run anything that would be considered "taxing" but even during the initial indexing it was silent.
 
13" MBP with 10th gen i5 here, connected to 4K Dell monitor. Heard the fan only like twice when taxing the CPU by compiling code. Otherwise, I don't hear fans at all with mixed use of Safari, 4k YouTube videos, Spotify, Messages, Calendar, Notes, Things 3.

I started with a completely clean install and transferred files over manually, so no Time Machine backup. Little indexing probably.
 
I am surprised and sorry to hear about the issues you experienced. I am typing this on my 2020 10th Gen 13" connected to two Dell 4k monitors. I am not doing anything that I would call intensive (Safari with 20 or so tabs, Calendar, two email clients, Photos running in background, etc), but the computer is completely silent in clamshell mode. The fans are not running at all (0 RPM). I wonder what was causing you such issues...View attachment 930960
This doesn't seem right... aren't the fans supposed to be always running, albeit at a 'base' speed? my 2018 15" (and my late 2013 15") both run at a base speed of about 2000rpm.

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This doesn't seem right... aren't the fans supposed to be always running, albeit at a 'base' speed? my 2018 15" (and my late 2013 15") both run at a base speed of about 2000rpm.

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The 15” models use 45-watt TDP CPUs. The fans are always running at base speed regardless of system activity. The 13” models use much lower power chips (15 or 28-watt TDP); the fans shut off on those machines when at idle or low temp.
This is one of the reasons I replaced my 2017 15” with the 2020 13”. Not that you can hear the fans at idle speed on the 15”, but I like knowing I can put the 13” onto a bedsheet or something without sucking in dust or anything. I’m crazy, I know!
 
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The 15” models use 45-watt TDP CPUs. The fans are always running at base speed regardless of system activity. The 13” models use much lower power chips (15 or 28-watt TDP); the fans shut off on those machines when at idle or low temp.
This is one of the reasons I replaced my 2017 15” with the 2020 13”. Not that you can hear the fans at idle speed on the 15”, but I like knowing I can put the 13” onto a bedsheet or something without sucking in dust or anything. I’m crazy, I know!
Not crazy at all!

I'm coming from a silent 2015 MacBook (silent because there was no fan at all) so I was really concerned about getting a computer that had a fan...would it drive me crazy just to hear it a little bit?

It actually hasn't bad at all. I hardly ever hear it. I only hear the fans when it is really working hard. And, then, I don't mind hearing them because I like the performance I see... it is awesome!
 
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Not crazy at all!

I'm coming from a silent 2015 MacBook (silent because there was no fan at all) so I was really concerned about getting a computer that had a fan...would it drive me crazy just to hear it a little bit?

It actually hasn't bad at all. I hardly ever hear it. I only hear the fans when it is really working hard. And, then, I don't mind hearing them because I like the performance I see... it is awesome!
I agree! I have no regrets with my switch. Especially because the CPU performance of the 2020 13” meets or exceeds the 2017 15” I had. I lose a bit of graphics performance without the discrete graphics chip, but I don’t miss it so far.
 
Oh well, if I could return my loaded 2020 MBP 13 I would. Already got burned with the G4-Intel Transition and I'm about to get burned again 15 years later. Burn me twice, shame on me...

I don't think you need to worry. Apple explicitly said during the WWDC keynote that they'd support Intel Macs for years to come. Apple in 2006 and Apple in 2020 are two entirely different beasts, and I do think the Apple of today, under Cook, will be more likely to support Intel Macs for at least 5-7 years with macOS updates... especially as there are still more Intel Macs to be released.
 
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I don't think you need to worry. Apple explicitly said during the WWDC keynote that they'd support Intel Macs for years to come. Apple in 2006 and Apple in 2020 are two entirely different beasts, and I do think the Apple of today, under Cook, will be more likely to support Intel Macs for at least 5-7 years with macOS updates... especially as there are still more Intel Macs to be released.

You can just keep using your system too. The PPC Macs had the problem of insufficient computing power. CPUs made by Intel a few years later had far more usable headroom so you can just keep on running an old version of macOS or switch to Windows or Linux when Apple eventually desupports x86.
 
Just wanted to say thanks to all those that offered advice re MBP vs Air and which to go for etc :)

Proud to say that I’ve gone for the above, 16GB / 512GB version in Silver; keeps in trend with my white magic keyboard and trackpad 2 also ;)

It’s just updating to the latest OS now and then I’ll sort out restoring it from my TM

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I’ve got a USB-C dongle on its way to me and a stand for the MBP too as I’ll be using it in clamshell mode with my Dell monitor via DP

Looks nice! Hope you enjoy the updated keyboard :)
 
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I want to replace my early 2015 rMBP, but there's really no reason too. It still has a decent battery life.

Want the 16, but reports of battery life and price are a concern. Maybe I'll wait for Apple Silicon.
 
I want to replace my early 2015 rMBP, but there's really no reason too. It still has a decent battery life.

Want the 16, but reports of battery life and price are a concern. Maybe I'll wait for Apple Silicon.

I think that the 2020 13 is very attractive if you're coming from the 2015. It overall sounds like a very nice upgrade in terms of battery and CPU and GPU power. If it's working for you right now, though, no reason to upgrade.

I have a 2015 13 and it's the system I mainly use when I'm not in the home office.
 
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I am surprised and sorry to hear about the issues you experienced. I am typing this on my 2020 10th Gen 13" connected to two Dell 4k monitors. I am not doing anything that I would call intensive (Safari with 20 or so tabs, Calendar, two email clients, Photos running in background, etc), but the computer is completely silent in clamshell mode. The fans are not running at all (0 RPM). I wonder what was causing you such issues...View attachment 930960

Out of curiosity, what is the performance/fan noise like when not in clam shell mode? I use 2 4K LG monitors and also use the laptop monitor as a 3rd screen.
 
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