My new Macbook doesn't meet my expectations

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Zorkon, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. Zorkon macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2003
    Kamloops BC
    So earlier this week I took delivery of a custom-ordered 2.0 GHz white MacBook with a 100 gig hard drive. After using the machine for a week, I'm afraid that it doesn't meet my expectations at all.

    From reading articles both here and on Digg, I expected a notebook that sounded like a cow, was hot enough to toast bread, had its very own wrist-rest fungal infection, and was poorly built.

    I'm happy to say that my new MacBook meets none of these expectations. Instead, it seems quite solid and well-built (for a consumer-level notebook). The glossy screen is quite readable, even with overhead lights, as long as you are looking directly at it. Someone from a side viewing angle might have problems, but they shouldn't be reading my screen anyways! :)

    Let's talk about heat next. As I type this, I have my MacBook sitting next to my ~ 1 year old 15" PowerBook G4 (1.5 GHz). Both have been compiling code for the past hour. Let's try a little test. Placing my hand on the upper-left portion of the MacBook keyboard, I can feel that it's quite warm. I can however, leave my hand in place without experiencing discomfort.

    Now, let's try the same thing on my Powerbook. One ... two ... three ... OW! Guess what? Subjectively, my Powerbook's case feels hotter than the MacBook. Same results for the underside heat test. Score for the MacBook.

    On a related heat note, I can't hear any fan "mooing" at all. The only time I can hear the fan is if I put my ear right up to the keyboard. Compared to the PowerBook sitting beside me, the MacBook fan is inaudible.

    No sign of the dreaded "stained wrist-rests" yet, and I don't expect there will be. As a system administrator, I've seen those stained wrist-rests on other machines in the past, including iBooks and Sony VAIOs.

    My personal belief is that it's due to higher-than-usual pH levels in a person's sweat. One individual I worked with used to sweat profusely and could destroy the wrist-rests of any laptop within 3 weeks. Her shiny new silver Sony VAIO looked beige after a month of use. I personally haven't had that problem in the past, so I don't expect it here.

    Integrated graphics card? Absolutely fine if you've got more than 512 MB in your machine (with less than 512, I've noticed things can get a bit laggy, but I multi-task alot). I loaded up the Second Life client and was getting better framerates than I did on my PowerBook (with its dedicated Radeon 9700 card), so that makes me a happy camper. Sure, it's not going to run Oblivion very well, but for a machine that's destined primarily for business-related stuff, that's fine by me. It plays the games I need it to (Second Life, The Sims 2, EVE-Online [via Bootcamp]).

    Oh, and Parallels runs very nicely.

    Overall, I'd have to say: Best. Apple. Consumer. Notebook. Ever.
  2. dualsyste macrumors newbie

    May 2, 2006
    Nice post :). I'm looking to get my Macbook when uni starts, but all this e-paranoia has really kept pushing my purchase back!
  3. dcv macrumors G3

    May 24, 2005
    Thanks for the -positive- review!

    I almost didn't open this thread though because of your choice of title... I thought, oh god, not *another* person complaining... :rolleyes:

    It's interesting to hear how it compares to the PowerBook heatwise. What about the keyboard and trackpad? How do you find them in comparison?
  4. Xander562 macrumors 68000


    Apr 2, 2006
    wow, i was expecting this to be another macbook-bashing thread
    good to hear SOMEONE is satisfied:)
  5. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    Ha, when i read your title i was thing(before i read the rest)

    They need more RAM , :D
  6. taytho macrumors 6502

    Jun 22, 2005
    KC, MO
    amen, a positive post is nice to read.

    it really is a great machine.
  7. dextertangocci macrumors 68000

    Apr 2, 2006
    I ALSO LOVE MY MB!!!:)

    It is the best computer I've ever had:cool:
  8. dejo Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
    Great post, Zorkon! Are you a writer? Nice modus to suck people in with an ambiguous title and opening paragraph. Then you pull a Shyamalan-esque switcheroo. Nice work!
  9. milozauckerman macrumors 6502

    Jun 25, 2005
    It's excellent to hear good experiences.

    I wish I could get up the nerve to buy one again, but I don't want to have to deal with Genius Bar hassles trying to return it if it moos, overheats or whines.
  10. QCassidy352 macrumors G4


    Mar 20, 2003
    Bay Area
    what he said. :)

    Nice review, glad you are so happy with it!
  11. daveaudio macrumors newbie

    Jun 20, 2006
    Well having come from a Powerbook G4 1.33 I would have to agree with Zorkon on a lot of things. My Macbook fan does not moo its very unobtrusive.
    I do not have discoloration issues either.
    Yes it seems the machine gets a little warm sometimes but I have noticed that after running it for a few weeks it has settled into a lower idle temps and operating temps then when I first got it. I can also say that my Powerbooks fan was indeed noiser. It was also a very hot computer. There is not a super crazy heat difference in the machines and considering how much more power I have at my disposal for the sake of that heat? MEH! on the heat issue.
  12. Zorkon thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2003
    Kamloops BC
    Thanks dejo. Nope, not a writer, at least not professionally. I'm a recovering unix system administrator who's back in university working on a physics degree.

    I have been known to write the odd article for the campus newspaper however. :)

    I just wanted to share my thoughts on the MacBooks. I've been hearing so many negative things about them on the net, and my experience has been completely the opposite, very positive overall.

    (I couldn't resist luring people in with the title though) :)
  13. garethh macrumors regular

    Apr 26, 2006
    My MacBook has mooed once - when using the Vista beta. Under OS X it is fantastically quiet!
  14. Killyp macrumors 68040


    Jun 14, 2006
    I love threads like this where you can talk about how great your computer is! It makes me feel like my money was well spent!

    I know it's not the same computer, but I feel exactly the same about my MacBook Pro. It's the best computer I've EVER had the pleasure of using!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
  15. michaelrjohnson macrumors 68020

    Aug 9, 2000
    Great to hear.

    I fear that a lot of the issues with MB/MBP's have been sensationalized and their prevalence exaggerated greatly due to this great world of the internet we have. ;)


    I'm so Impressed with the case of the MB, but I just can't sacrifice my 15in screen! If they made a 15in MB, or a 15in MBP in a MB case, I would buy it in a heartbeat. {sigh}...
  16. Zorkon thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2003
    Kamloops BC
    The keyboard is noisier to type on than the Powerbooks, but the feel is good. Key travel is fine, and there's a solid resistance when you depress a key fully (unlike the older iBooks where the keyboard flexed). I don't mind the spacing between the keys, since the key faces themselves are still exactly the same size as the PowerBooks.

    As far as the trackpad goes, I don't notice any difference whatsoever, aside from the extra room (it's somewhat wider than the Powerbook trackpad). No problems with brushing my hands against it accidentally while typing. The two-fingers down right-click functionality is handy.
  17. Zorkon thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2003
    Kamloops BC
    Indeed. Here's a little more positive info:

    I work part-time for a store that sells Macs and other computer hardware. MacBooks (and MBPs) have been flying off the shelves since they were released, and we have honestly had zero complaints. No heat complaints. No screen complaints. No stained wrist-rest complaints, and no "mooing" complaints. At all.

    We have had a single MacBook Pro returned due to a bad battery, which was quickly swapped.

    We've had plenty of customers come in and ask about alleged problems (mostly from reading about them on Digg), but so far, no actual returned products.

    So, are the issues blown out of proportion? My empirical evidence tells me yes.

    That's what I thought, but I don't miss it at all. Then again, my Powerbook had a resolution of 1280x854, and the MacBook has a resolution of 1280x800 ... so I didn't really give up much screen real estate in the swap.
  18. michaelrjohnson macrumors 68020

    Aug 9, 2000
    It is farily close, and seeing as how my 15in PB was manufactured over 2.5 years ago, I'm sure the MB screen is an upgrade in all areas.
  19. MRU Suspended


    Aug 23, 2005
    Just Started Mooing

    I was surfing on the net just a minute ago, then I heard it. A faint moo :eek:

    Oh no.... I thought...

    A few seconds later another moo...

    Starting to panic now :(

    Third time another moo, followed by a quick succession ??

    I put my head to the back of the macbook but couldnt hear the fans.

    I put my hand under the macbook (which is raised on an iCurve) and it
    was barely warm....

    I decided I need more light so I pull the blind on the window to let in the evening light and to my surprise a fecking cow is stood in my garden

    :eek: Farmer was taking them to be milked and one escaped :rolleyes:

    I pissed myself laughing with relief..... Poor blackbook how could I doubt you....

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