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colonelbutt

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I have had most apple watches since their initial launch. I don't keep them for more then a month or so usually.
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They are great fun, nicely made, and it is very useful to have phone calls, messaging and the steps, heart and other things recorded. I am not a big user of apps, but apps such as stocard, maps, a simple calcuator and others have become very useful to have around. Especially since the watch became water proof and it can be kept on for swimming and rough days. It is really nice to go for walks /runs or wander around the house or office without taking the heavy phone, and not miss calls and essential messaging.

So why not keep for longer ? Essentially the major and minor elephant in the room. The minor one first, the apps. Although the app icon display is logical and looks nice, it is really fiddly to use. It takes ages to remember the icons for apps you need and is still fiddly, especially in rain. The Garmin system is much more limited in terms of apps, but the multi-buttons, once used to, make speeding around the system ultra fast. Perhaps in the future Apple can add another wheel, or a few more buttons, and do some kind of hybrid system, despite its minimalistic strategy.
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The major elephant is of course the battery life. I am not a heavy user. I just use for seeing the time (every 15 mins or so as I have adhd), occasionally apps like apple pay or stocard or maps, messaging, and measuring work outs (which it does in the background). It hasn't been until the 7 where I have managed to get a whole day out of it. I would say the 8, and especially the 9, are now, for my usage a solid day. Still it has ruled out any usage on holiday, no way can i be stranded in the evening with no time or diary. Compared to my Garmins, with 7-16 day battery, depedning on usage, it has been just too annoying to have to charge every night.

So I was looking for my annual apple watch hit, and I was looking at the 9 in stainless steel, I mean I liked the gold colour. Then I realised that the Ultra 2 was the same cost, but for the money, you get a larger brighter screen, a titanium case, an extra button and, wait for it, double sized battery (or at least the life). No brainer! As I am used to wearing swiss mechanical watches, the weight difference feels pretty irrelevant, and it fits nicely on my smallish 6.7" wrist.
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The one disadvantage is the thickness. It is fine for all but the slimmest cuff shirts, but that does preclude the type of shirt I wear if using it at the office. The new marine rubber straps are excellent, comfortable and robust, although it was a bit unerving on a supposedly tough watch, that when I slid it on originally the metal catch in the middle shot out from the strap, including the spring underneath. The apple shop were super quick to give me a new one however.

The main impression on wearing it is of a premium device, with some clear water between it and the standard 9. Firstly the larger and brighter screen. Secondly the dull lustre and lightness of the titanium. Thirdly the cermaic back. Cermaic and crystal/glass have clear advantages for the back of a watch. They are cooler in summer and warmer in winter then metal.
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To end on the elephant. I have now 2 clear days of usage. That doesn't mean you can't charge it every night, but I don't need to. Which is where we are generally with battery life. I think Apple is 1/3 of the way there with the Ultra 2. That may sound harsh, but my goal would be for a clear 5 days working week and a clear weekend with no charge. That would make the Apple Watch fully come of age.
So am I keeping it, ? I think it may just have pipped my Garmin as my main electronic watch. Only time will tell ;)
 
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Put your apps in list view instead of the default grid view. That way they are in alphabetical order, and you can find what you need fast and easy. The YouTubers think they look cool scrolling around on the watch looking for the one app they can't find and it's stupid.

Complaining about charging the watch every day (series model) when most people have to charge the phone every day, is just a cop out.
 
Put your apps in list view instead of the default grid view. That way they are in alphabetical order, and you can find what you need fast and easy. The YouTubers think they look cool scrolling around on the watch looking for the one app they can't find and it's stupid.

Complaining about charging the watch every day (series model) when most people have to charge the phone every day, is just a cop out.
good point on the apps, however I find the list too long. Some kind of folders or grouping would be good.
Having one device to charge a day is bad enough :D
 
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Thanks for the write up! 👍

I have had most apple watches since their initial launch. I don't keep them for more then a month or so usually.

I can definitely relate to your experience.

Have always wanted to love the Apple Watch, tried one just about every year, yet always returned them.

Got an Ultra 2 a couple weeks back, and… finally, I think this is a keeper.

Time will tell, but so far so good. It has, for me, moved beyond the slab of black glass on my wrist to something with a bit more of the character I get from my mechanical watches.
The battery life is also a massive step forward (for Apple that is).


PS. Theatre Royal Bath? That's where I live. Bath, not the Theatre Royal, obviously. 😁
 
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Thanks for the write up! 👍



I can definitely relate to your experience.

Have always wanted to love the Apple Watch, tried one just about every year, yet always returned them.

Got an Ultra 2 a couple weeks back, and… finally, I think this is a keeper.

Time will tell, but so far so good. It has, for me, moved beyond the slab of black glass on my wrist to something with a bit more of the character I get from my mechanical watches.
The battery life is also a massive step forward (for Apple that is).


PS. Theatre Royal Bath? That's where I live. Bath, not the Theatre Royal, obviously. 😁
100%
Had to see a pantomime with the kids. Anyway I survived ;)
 
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I wanted the ultra bad, since the first release however I went with the series 9 and dont regret it. I check the weather and messages but mainly use it to track my walking-bicycling trips. Im actually glad I didnt spend the extra money for the ultra
 
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Good write-up and very similar to my experience with it. If you're used to the Series watches, your impressions of the size will be a little skewed, but most people will quickly adjust to it and the Series watches start to feel a little small. Our brains are weird like that.

The Ultra bands are what caused some of the bulk for me, so using regular sport bands or sport loops fixed that, although I do want to try an ocean band. My only complaint is as you mentioned - the thickness of the Ultra and its fitment under certain shirts/sleeves requires a little more attention.

It's a fantastic all-arounder and one of the best watches Apple has made, imo.
 
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Considering what the Garmin offers you, just turn on Low Power mode on your Apple Watch and you’ll extend your battery life and still have a nicer watch than the Garmin. Even with my S7 I can get 2 days use without the AOD (and without low power mode). Wake on wrist raise is usually enough and I have an AOD shortcut in the widgets pane when I do „need“ it.
As for the app view, I like the change in watchOS 10 that you can only scroll down and not around in all directions. Keeping my most recent on top and all apps split into health/navigation/weather to the left (because fitness, maps and weather go fine with each other) and tools and such to the right.
17 (+2 small ones at the very bottom) spots for apps is sufficient on a smartwatch I think. I rarely have to scroll past them to get to another app, and if I do I mostly just play around with the UI or fidget with the crown in maps or another app :)
 
I’ve had my ultra 2 since Christmas. I’ve added the $10/mo plan to my att account. This watch is phenomenal. I left my phone home for about 8-9 hours, took a couple calls, texted a lot, and only used 12% battery. That’s insane. This thing is a keeper. It’s nice leaving without a phone in your pocket. Don’t have to hold the watch to use it. Texting on it is fantastic with the big screen. I can watch videos in the messages app that friends and family send me. I can copy paste pics and stuff. It’s very freeing leaving with just my watch.
 
I’ve had my ultra 2 since Christmas. I’ve added the $10/mo plan to my att account. This watch is phenomenal. I left my phone home for about 8-9 hours, took a couple calls, texted a lot, and only used 12% battery. That’s insane. This thing is a keeper. It’s nice leaving without a phone in your pocket. Don’t have to hold the watch to use it. Texting on it is fantastic with the big screen. I can watch videos in the messages app that friends and family send me. I can copy paste pics and stuff. It’s very freeing leaving with just my watch.
Apple Pay on the watch was what fully 100% sold me on having one. It's so bloody convenient.
 
"colonelbutt" is the best name on MacRumors.

(also hemming and hawing about upgrading from my S6 to an Ultra, so thanks for sharing your experiences.)
 
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I sort of gave up on previous Apple watches due to terrible baddery life (compared to to other smart watches. However. I recently bit the bullet and parted wonga to buy the Ultra 2. Now, this seems to be a game chnager for me. I'm getting around 4 days baddery life at the moment, plus, there's no reason why this won't improve even further down the road. Currently loving an Apple watch once again. And here's my favourite watch face so far...........
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To end on the elephant. I have now 2 clear days of usage. That doesn't mean you can't charge it every night, but I don't need to. Which is where we are generally with battery life. I think Apple is 1/3 of the way there with the Ultra 2. That may sound harsh, but my goal would be for a clear 5 days working week and a clear weekend with no charge. That would make the Apple Watch fully come of age.

This is my experience too with my new Ultra 2.

Always on display, no battery saving, no screen dimming to save power, cell plan active. I am on day 2 of this charge, its 8 am (I wake at 5) and this is still on 60%.

Last time I think I had 20% left or so on day 3 (a full 48-50 hours into a single charge) without any battery saving features turned on. Next charge I think I'll try turning on low power mode and see if I can get a work week out of it.

Also, current face:

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I have the Ultra 1. It can do a weekend away, but it's touch and go, depending on activities. I'd really like a weekend away regardless of activities. It's close. Friday evening to Sunday evening is what I'm referring to. It's at the point where I don't need to be concerned about battery life day to day, but there's room for improvement.

Apparently some people are getting 3-5 days with the Ultra 2, which is pretty amazing.
 
I think I'm going to be on a 5 dayer this week on my AWU2😀
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Power saving mode? Cellular connectivity?

I do have email on the phone for a few high volume mail accounts and cellular - but what you've shown there is very impressive!!

Here's mine for the past 24hr (8pm on day 2 with cell connection, high volume mail, 2 workouts without phone being nearby, etc.). Looking at the graph you can see the evening walk I did without my phone nearby - there was a step down in the battery life this evening doing that. So it seems cell connection + GPS + workout tracking really burns a fair bit more than "normal" activity with phone near.

For comparison - my outgoing s6 with 82% battery health would get me through a single 5am - bedtime day with maybe 15% life left. Barely a single day with same usage.

Which I guess is the point of the bigger battery - to enable you to do those things without being tethered to the phone, even for a couple of days.

As above, if you turn on low power mode on an Apple Watch, it's still nicer than most other smart watches. I might give low power mode a shot next time I charge.

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Friday evening to Sunday evening is what I'm referring to.

I think this is the target. Could maybe get there with low power mode? They quote 72hr?

Point being - that's your typical sort of "I'm going to be out and about doing stuff for a bit" time-frame.

Whether it's an all weekend pub bender with the lads, or a camping trip with the family - maybe even Friday morning through Sunday evening would be the most common "I can't charge yet" scenario. :)
 
Power saving mode? Cellular connectivity?

I do have email on the phone for a few high volume mail accounts and cellular - but what you've shown there is very impressive!!

Here's mine for the past 24hr (8pm on day 2 with cell connection, high volume mail, 2 workouts without phone being nearby, etc.). Looking at the graph you can see the evening walk I did without my phone nearby - there was a step down in the battery life this evening doing that. So it seems cell connection + GPS + workout tracking really burns a fair bit more than "normal" activity with phone near.

For comparison - my outgoing s6 with 82% battery health would get me through a single 5am - bedtime day with maybe 15% life left. Barely a single day with same usage.

Which I guess is the point of the bigger battery - to enable you to do those things without being tethered to the phone, even for a couple of days.

As above, if you turn on low power mode on an Apple Watch, it's still nicer than most other smart watches. I might give low power mode a shot next time I charge.

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Normal power mode in use. I haven't set up a cellular service. Only because I live in on Dartmoor NP with very poor reception. To add some context, I am a light user. I use it once a day for my 5 mile walk. I take emails, calls, messages etc. Nothing to heavy. Most weeks I get between 3-5 days, pending on usage. I'm more than happy with this.
 
Normal power mode in use. I haven't set up a cellular service. Only because I live in on Dartmoor NP with very poor reception. To add some context, I am a light user. I use it once a day for my 5 mile walk. I take emails, calls, messages etc. Nothing to heavy. Most weeks I get between 3-5 days, pending on usage. I'm more than happy with this.

Yup, sounds entirely fair based on your usage.

I think cellular really does make a difference. You can see it on my battery graph earlier in thread from today. Went for a walk for half-hour without the iPhone (starting just before 6pm) and it made a noticeable dent in the power consumption.
 
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