My old Samsung has been cloned

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  1. SunriseBoy macrumors newbie

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    If I buy an iPhone 5S, will someone be able to clone it using my phone number?
     
  2. Cmd-Z macrumors 6502

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    I'm not even exactly sure what you're asking, but I'm pretty sure the answer is "No" in any case.
     
  3. adamhenry macrumors 65816

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    I'm not sure I understand your question. If you are asking if your current phone number can be assigned to a new 5s, that will depend on your current carrier and the carrier you buy the 5s from.
     
  4. SunriseBoy thread starter macrumors newbie

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    That's not the issue.

    Someone has cloned my phone.
    The Received calls and Dialled calls have been manipulated on the account.

    The phone has been CLONED!

    My question is: Can an iPhone 5S be cloned from another phone?
     
  5. Cmd-Z macrumors 6502

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    If two iPhones share an iCloud account, then call history on one phone will be replicated on the other phone. The solution to that is, use different iCloud accounts for each iPhone or try to live with one account but turn off some iCloud features ("iPhone Cellular Calls" which allows your iPad or Mac on the same iCloud account to use your iPhone for phone calls, and "iCloud Drive" may have a role in this too). Best to just not share iCloud IDs.
     
  6. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Pretty much anything like that can be done by someone sophisticated enough to do it, as it's just a phone after all. It's essentially illegal to do so. So if that has actually happened (and it's not something else in play like shared iCloud account or something like that) and you have actual knowledge of it, seems like you'd want to contact your carrier and perhaps even the police.
     
  7. CNeufeld macrumors 6502a

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    So what does all this have to do with your "old Samsung"?

    C
     
  8. SunriseBoy thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Are you having problems with comprehension, C?

    Read my two posts!

    And yes C DM, I've contacted the carrier, but it appears the teenagers and backpackers they have working there are even slower on the up-take than some people here.

    The police will be contacted when the info from the carrier is finally received. However, I'm not holding my breath!
     
  9. CNeufeld macrumors 6502a

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    Enjoy your life, dude. I'm out.

    C
     
  10. thatanonymoususer, Nov 10, 2015
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    No offense, but cloned could be anything and making it all caps doesn't make the definition that you're looking for more clear, so please don't insult MacRumors members for trying to help. We're not paid employees. We're just forum members who love our devices and want to help others get just as much enjoyment out of their devices as we ourselves are getting. If you're asking wether or not someone could access your information simply by getting your phone number just because you have an iPhone, the answer is no.

    If you mean that someone has gotten your iCloud account information and then restored from your iCloud backup, then yes that would be possible. In this case, turning on 2-factor authentication or changing your password on iCloud will make every device logged in on your account log off, so if someone has your information and is using iMessage on a second device, changing your password will put a stop to it.

    If you mean that someone else is using your phone number, then that is up to your carrier to resolve. They shouldn't allow others to have access to your number, and they are the gatekeeper when it comes to that aspect of security regardless of the phone you use. Technically it would be possible to steal your SIM card and then register your number to an Apple ID and therefore siphon off all incoming messages from your iPhone friends, but that requires physical access to your phone and its SIM card. The registered number also follows the SIM, so if you took it out of their phone and put it back in yours, they shouldn't have access to the number anymore.

    Overall though, unless your phone is set up for forwarding in settings->messages-> forwarding, or settings -> FaceTime -> forwarding, you should be fine.

    After changing your password (which you should do anyways if you think you have an intruder), you can go onto iCloud.com and check to make sure that only devices that you own are on your iCloud account under settings.

    If by cloned you mean that something odd showed up on your phone bill, check with friends/family before assuming you were hacked.
     
  11. SunriseBoy thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Good, makes us both feel better.
     
  12. SunriseBoy thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Uh huh.
     
  13. convergent macrumors 68000

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    1. Newbie asks a question that makes no sense.
    2. Forum members try to help.
    3. He insults them.

    Not the way to get help on a forum dude... good luck with your phone clone problem!
     
  14. DeftwillP macrumors 6502

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    Guys, I need help. Someone cloned my Big Mac. Can I go to Pizza Hut and get another one?

    edit: or are you guys to stupid to help me?
     
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    Gosh.....I have heard of this before. I would watch out and not leave any DNA anywhere. Oh and wash laundry daily.
     
  17. garirry macrumors 68000

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    Uhh... What?
     
  18. ABC5S macrumors 68040

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    Cloning means to make your phone into another phone that is identical, like some science fiction"B" movie. You wrote your question incorrectly. Not good for a first timer. You are probably asking, can one take all of your information, and place it onto another phones and use it as yours.

    As of right now, your have insulted many on this thread so no point in helping you further. Ask you parents for help

    PS: I hope to God no one Clones you
     
  19. nooaah macrumors 68000

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    Wow, you're an absolute delight. Please keep holding your breath. You could have just used google for a fairly rare type of fraud most of us are not familiar with and found out the answer. And I won't give you a response and neither should anyone else here. Go google it and figure it out. And work on your communications skills and attitude.
     
  20. timeconsumer macrumors 65816

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    Yes, absolutely. The 5S has higher clone rates than other iPhones.
     
  21. convergent macrumors 68000

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    I wonder if the OP is a "teenager" or a "backpacker" since he let someone compromise his phone? I'm going to say neither since I don't want to insult teenagers and backpackers.
     
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  24. MEJHarrison macrumors 6502

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    I suspect what he means by cloning is in the legal sense. Where law enforcement will "clone" a phone so they know who's calling, who's being called, and I presume have the ability to use the "cloned" phone to place calls from that number on a different handset.

    At least I believe that's the definition of "cloned" he's looking for.

    Of course with that said, I see no reason to answer the question. I might get chased away if I do!
     

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