My PC Died

[janey]

Bobcat,...

not to burst your bubble, but it seems like bobcat got it fixed

 

[nazmac21]

I don't care about the price. I am a person who likes to argue hard until I win the case. The Mac Pro will still beat any PC, even with the nVidea GeForce 8800 GTX. I still recommend the ATI Radeon X2800 XT for gaming. If those 2 cards were available on the Mac, gaming on the Mac will be more popular and Macs will beat PCs for gaming.

 

[janey]

I don't care about the price. I am a person who likes to argue hard until I win the case. The Mac Pro will still beat any PC, even with the nVidea GeForce 8800 GTX. I still recommend the ATI Radeon X2800 XT for gaming. If those 2 cards were available on the Mac, gaming on the Mac will be more popular and Macs will beat PCs for gaming.

You just blew my mind.

Macs will never beat homebuilt PCs because of the price alone. Price matters a lot. Why pay double for something from Apple when you can get the same performance out of something for a lot cheaper?

You're talking about a card that might not even show up in Mac Pros as it's still a rumor.

The Mac Pro NOW cannot even come close to a well built computer that will also probably be half the price.



edit: What apple needs to add to get any portion of the gaming market is to include something even as ****** as a 7300gt in their consumer machines without changing the price.

 

[TheBobcat]

Bobcat,

When you try to start the computer do you get your normal quick single beep startup chime?

If you are not getting any beeps then you likely have a bad motherboard or CPU. Though I would suggest this.

1. Unplug every component (just check that your CPU's heatsink is secure, there is no reason to detach your CPU yet)

2. Then only plug in your power cables, internal speaker, front panel connectors (power,restart and led's) RAM and Video card (assuming that you have a dedicated video card).

3. Turn on the computer you should get to the BIOS if your CPU, Motherboard, Video Adapter and RAM are in good shape. If at this step you do not get any boot screens listen note what the computer does when you press the power button.

-Do you get a quick single beep? Then you board passed initial self tests for memory, CPU, and motherboard functionality. I would then presume that the video adapter has bit the dust.

-Do you get multiple quick beeps, extended beeps or a mix of the two then there is a problem with a core component. (check your boards manufacturer to find out the meaning of the specific BIOS error code)

-If you get no reaction when you press the power button then you could have a bad power supply, motherboard, CPU or Power Button (you can test this by swapping the power button and reset button where they attach to the motherboard then press your reset button). Since you said that you get lights and a quick spin of the fans with your new power supply I would suspect that your power supply is fine.

4. If you are able to get to your BIOS then turn off the computer and plug everything back in something probably got knocked loose.

Thanks a lot for your advice, you were right on target. I did a lot of those things you said after contacting some of my friends, and BIOS was just not going to happen for me. The Mobo or CPU must have died, but I ended up getting another combo on TigerDirect. Would have rather saved the 200 bucks, but hey.

Thanks again for your relevant response and I hope your detailed post helps someone else who searches this with the same problem in the future. Ugh, trolls.

 

[SkyBell]

I don't care about the price. I am a person who likes to argue hard until I win the case. The Mac Pro will still beat any PC, even with the nVidea GeForce 8800 GTX. I still recommend the ATI Radeon X2800 XT for gaming. If those 2 cards were available on the Mac, gaming on the Mac will be more popular and Macs will beat PCs for gaming.

Who says it'll be more popular? There's no way Macs would beat PC's in gaming because of a card. If macs gained a bigger marketshare, I could see it POSSIBILY happening.

But, at the current 5-10% or whatever it is marketshare, it ain't gonna happen, bub.

 

[nazmac21]

Leopard is also going to help. Leopard is going to have OpenGL 2.1 and Resolution Independence. I heard that OpenGL 2.1 might the double the perdormance of OpenGL Applications, hopefully Games too (in Mac OS X) and displays with resolution independence (measurement of display in units such as centimeters and inches) are going to have real world-like quality. I would run a 7680x4800 screen resolution on the MacBook and 6400x4800 on the iBook G4.
(Thanks to Leopard)