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shelt

macrumors member
Original poster
Apr 12, 2007
81
71
NorCal
Using SwitchResX, as suggested in the related H-IPS thread, i found my WHITE 24" C2D, purchased 27 Jun 2007 from an Apple Store, has the coveted LG Philips H-IPS panel rather than S-PVA seen in earlier editions!! Here is the SwitchResX data:


EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26012 (659C) (9C65)
Serial Number.......168xxxx

Manufactured........Week 0 of year 2006
Max H Size..........52 cm
Max V Size..........32 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------


Display type:
-------------
RGB color display


Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.640 Green x = 0.290 Blue x = 0.146 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.340 Green y = 0.616 Blue y = 0.069 White y = 0.328

Established Timings:
--------------------

Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------
Unknown timing 3

Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------

Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............156.00 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1920 pixels 1200 lines
Front Porch............. 48 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 6 lines
Back Porch.............. 80 pixels 36 lines
Blanking................ 160 pixels 45 lines
Total...................2080 pixels 1245 lines
Scan Rate............... 75.00 kHz 60.24 Hz

Image Size.............. 470 mm 300 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Positive vertical polarity
* Positive horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LM240wu2-sLA1
Descriptor #3 is Monitor name:
Color LCD
 

prs986

macrumors regular
Aug 16, 2007
105
1
Central CA, USA
Awesome! Now, someone needs to run this program on a 20". I guess I can do it when I go home after work, if someone doesnt beat me to it.
 

craigr577

macrumors member
Aug 23, 2007
42
0
U.S.
Awesome! Now, someone needs to run this program on a 20".
That would be great (because information is useful!), especially if people do it for other recent monitors: new-20, and also white-20 and new-24.

But where in the info-readout does it say "LG Philips H-IPS"? Does this require extra knowledge and interpretation, as when you say "Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)" near the end?

Craig
 

rainydays

macrumors 6502a
Nov 6, 2006
886
0
But where in the info-readout does it say "LG Philips H-IPS"? Does this require extra knowledge and interpretation, as when you say "Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)" near the end?

Descriptor #2 says LM240wu2 which is the model number of the LG Philips display, the same used in the new iMac 24".
 

HLdan

macrumors 603
Aug 22, 2007
6,383
0
Not being sarcastic but could someone please tell why is knowing about the LCD design so important? What is an H-IPS panel anyway and why should anyone care? I'm currently waiting for my iMac 24 to ship and just want to know is this H-IPS panel something I need to be concerned about on my iMac?
:confused:
 

kixsand

macrumors regular
Jan 25, 2007
191
0
Toronto
I've had my 24" iMac for about 6 months now...build to order at the time. I just pulled the data using SwitchResX and it would appear that my iMac also has the panel in question...

It doesn't mean a lot to me but I find it delightful none the less.

Cheers, ...

Data below.



DDC block report generated by SwitchResX for display
iMac

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
-----------------------------------------------------
0 | 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 06 10 65 9C 01 01 01 01
1 | 00 10 01 03 80 34 20 78 0A C7 74 A3 57 4A 9D 25
2 | 11 50 54 00 00 10 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 F0 3C 80 A0 70 B0 2D 40 30 20
4 | 36 00 D6 2C 11 00 00 1E 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 11 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
6 | 4D 32 34 30 77 75 32 2D 73 4C 41 31 00 00 00 FC
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 57

-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed

EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26012 (659C) (9C65)
Serial Number.......16843009

Manufactured........Week 0 of year 2006
Max H Size..........52 cm
Max V Size..........32 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------


Display type:
-------------
RGB color display


Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.640 Green x = 0.290 Blue x = 0.146 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.340 Green y = 0.616 Blue y = 0.069 White y = 0.328

Established Timings:
--------------------

Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------
Unknown timing 3

Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------

Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............156.00 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1920 pixels 1200 lines
Front Porch............. 48 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 6 lines
Back Porch.............. 80 pixels 36 lines
Blanking................ 160 pixels 45 lines
Total...................2080 pixels 1245 lines
Scan Rate............... 75.00 kHz 60.24 Hz

Image Size.............. 470 mm 300 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Positive vertical polarity
* Positive horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LM240wu2-sLA1
Descriptor #3 is Monitor name:
Color LCD
 

craigr577

macrumors member
Aug 23, 2007
42
0
U.S.
Descriptor #2 says LM240wu2 which is the model number of the LG Philips display, the same used in the new iMac 24".
How do you know that "LM240wu2 = LG Philips = H-IPS"? googling "LM240wu2" brings up info about Philips (mainly from forums, which say it's H-IPS) but how do they know? Is there a database with information about the types of displays used in various models of Philips (and Dell, Samsung,...) or is it available on manufacturers' websites? Or is it from "various sketchy sources" as in #31-36 and 41 of https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/344204/ ? :)

Six days ago, prs86 said "someone needs to run this program on a 20. I guess I can do it when I go home after work, if someone doesnt beat me to it." It would be useful if someone with each monitor (aluminum and white) used SwitchResX (shareware with 10-day free trial period, http://www.madrau.com/html/SRX/About.html) to get data that can be decoded. (but is it obvious "what to do" after downloading the program? a "read me" user manual is available, but it's long)

I would especially like to know what the white-20" is.

Craig
 

Thunderbird

macrumors 6502a
Dec 25, 2005
942
774
This is interesting. Does anyone know if this particular lcd panel would be in all the last revision white 24" iMacs ? So, if I bought a 24" today from the last stocks in my local big box retail computer store, I should probably get one with that panel?
 

imacdaddy

macrumors 6502a
Feb 2, 2006
661
0
This is interesting. Does anyone know if this particular lcd panel would be in all the last revision white 24" iMacs ? So, if I bought a 24" today from the last stocks in my local big box retail computer store, I should probably get one with that panel?

24" iMac AL uses LG/Philips Model LM240WU2 (SL/B1)
24" iMac White uses LG/Philips Model LM240WU2 (SL/A1)
 

serega

macrumors regular
Nov 19, 2007
186
2
Seattle
It looks like my IMac 20" has TN Display:

DDC block report generated by SwitchResX for display
Color LCD

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
-----------------------------------------------------
0 | 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 06 10 6A 9C 01 01 01 01
1 | 00 10 01 03 80 2B 1B 78 0A CF 74 A2 57 4A 9C 25
2 | 11 50 54 00 00 10 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 7C 2E 90 A0 60 1A 1E 40 30 20
4 | 36 00 B1 0E 11 00 00 1C 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 11 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
6 | 4D 32 30 31 57 45 33 2D 54 4C 46 31 00 00 00 FC
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 2B

-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed

EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........27292 (6A9C) (9C6A)
Serial Number.......16843009

Manufactured........Week 0 of year 2006
Max H Size..........43 cm
Max V Size..........27 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------


Display type:
-------------
RGB color display


Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.636 Green x = 0.292 Blue x = 0.146 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.340 Green y = 0.612 Blue y = 0.069 White y = 0.328

Established Timings:
--------------------

Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------
Unknown timing 3

Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------

Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1680 x 1050 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............119.00 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1680 pixels 1050 lines
Front Porch............. 48 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 6 lines
Back Porch.............. 80 pixels 21 lines
Blanking................ 160 pixels 30 lines
Total...................1840 pixels 1080 lines
Scan Rate............... 64.67 kHz 59.88 Hz

Image Size.............. 433 mm 270 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Positive vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LM201WE3-TLF1
Descriptor #3 is Monitor name:
Color LCD
 

lPHONE

macrumors 6502a
Nov 17, 2009
671
1
Not being sarcastic but could someone please tell why is knowing about the LCD design so important? What is an H-IPS panel anyway and why should anyone care? I'm currently waiting for my iMac 24 to ship and just want to know is this H-IPS panel something I need to be concerned about on my iMac?
:confused:

These panels are considered best for those who do critical photographic work because their projection angles are such that you do not have perceptual fading at the top and bottom. The larger a panel is, the more of a problem with fading.

OK, I have an iMac with a cracked LCD, but I don't need the H-IPS. Can I replae it with the cheaper one? If yes, where can I fine it?
 
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