Felldownthewell said:
While I agree overall with your point - I do think it's pretty weird you blame the child, and the parent in the above example, but not the 45 year old man!!
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While I agree overall with your point - I do think it's pretty weird you blame the child, and the parent in the above example, but not the 45 year old man!!
iAlan said:As an owner of a garden swing I take offence at your comment - concider yourself sued
As an owner of a dictionary, I take offense at your misspelling of 'consider' - consider yourself sued.
myspace = teh suck. Facebook is where it's at...
Myspace is for creepy stalkers. Facebook is too, but at least you can control the geography of where the stalkers that can stalk you are from...
Also, people are dumb.
It wouldn't surprise me if the mom had this set up, and told her daughter to go sleep with someone over 18 that she met on myspace...
I'm going to sue the phone company and phone book people, because an old man found my name and called me to set up a meeting so I could be assaulted...
Too bad people can't be sued for being complete dimwits...
Myspace is for creepy stalkers. Facebook is too, but at least you can control the geography of where the stalkers that can stalk you are from...
Also, people are dumb.
It wouldn't surprise me if the mom had this set up, and told her daughter to go sleep with someone over 18 that she met on myspace...
I'm going to sue the phone company and phone book people, because an old man found my name and called me to set up a meeting so I could be assaulted...
Too bad people can't be sued for being complete dimwits...
Chip NoVaMac said:
I'm sure my daughter, and future children will hate me when they get to "internet age".
The computers they have access to will either be in a public place or accessible via some sort of VNC so that they know at any given moment I will/can be watching exactly what they are doing on the computer. It will also be made clear that they have no such thing as privacy when it comes to the computer(s) in the house. If I feel it's necessary I will read their email.
If they get a computer in their room it may be networked to share the printer(s) but will be blocked at the router so that the internet is unavailable or have no networking at all and a local printer.
The internet is a scary place and I don't expect anyone running a website to put up any protections to prevent my children from getting there. It is my job as a parent to protect my children.
I hope that I can trust my kids enough to let them have some freedom, I don't anticipate reading their email but they will know that I can do it if I think I must.
Of course there is a bit of a technology gap at the moment for older parents of young children. My mom would have no clue what to do with young kids and the internet now, so I can see where that can come into play. But parents don't expect J.A. Henkels to keep steak knives out of the hands of their children (it's why there are drawer locks for childproofing), why would they expect a commercial website to keep any potential customers out?
atszyman said:
Glad to see that I am not the only one feeling like this.
I remember the Master Rule of my parents house. Until I paid the bills, I had to live by their rules. If I didn't like it, I knew where the door was.
whooleytoo said:
Well of course he's to blame! But he's not the one being sued... myspace is.
The rapist is always at fault (I don't buy this "Its a disease I can't help it don't send me to jail" bullsh*t) but in this case some responsibility falls on the victim. Now that is a horrible statement OUT OF CONTEXT so don't selectively quote me on that one- but in a case where the teen does what I described- seductive pictures, arranged meetings and so on- thats just stupid. Not saying she deserved it, but she was dumb to put herself in the position. Her and her parents are far more to blame than myspace- but far less to blame than the rapist.
atszyman said:
Ok, I think this seems a bit excessive. I feel like doing this isn't truly being a good parent. The key to a successful relationship with one's child is trust. You (and by "you" i'm not singling you out, but referring to all parents) need to be able to develop a level of trust with your child and educate him/her about the risks of the internet so that you would never have to monitor like that. I mean, sure you can check up on them, but instead of doing it behind their back, ask them what they've been up to. If you have raised your child well enough, which i'm sure you will, you will be able to trust any answer they give you.
clayj said:
Well put - the victory in this case would be to compel myspace to change their ways with financial pressure. I believe they need to- now and dramatically.
While Myspace is being sued, can we get SMS.ac sued to? I'm sure charging premium for text messages you didn't sign up to get is illegal.
I don't know about all that, but I do think something needs to be done. Like everything else, what is meant to be fun and enjoyable for users with good intentions is ruined by a smaller population of losers who probably should be locked up.jamesW135 said:
"'MySpace is more concerned about making money than protecting children online,' Adam Loewy, who is representing the girl and her mother in the lawsuit against MySpace, told the newspaper."
Amen.
I wholly agree with Chris200x9 as well.
Amen.
I wholly agree with Chris200x9 as well.
Chubypig said:
I never said I was doing it behind their back, and I never said I would watch every minute they are on a computer. But if I think something is up, I will get into their email much like I would search their room if I thought they were doing drugs. I fully expect to trust my kids, and I expect they will trust me. Knowing me they will end up with their own computers (most likely my old hardware) for word processing and homework. We will probably limit internet access to 1-2 computers in the house located in the office where at any given point my wife or I is likely to be, or be soon. Chatting is fine, browsing is fine, but it's not hard to end up places you don't intend to be very quickly.
I realize that they will get curious and go to sites I don't want them to but that's probably a good sign that we need to be discussing other issues. The most likely scenario for what will happen in my house is the public computers for internet and probably turn on address logging in the router to keep track of what websites are visited just for the hell of it.
I have tools at my disposal, and I will utilize some of them, and if something seems out of order to me I will do what I think is best to protect my child. There will of course be long talks about meeting strangers on the internet and why you should never meet alone. Of course my daughter isn't even 2 yet and her computer experience is watching "you" on my screensaver (she refers to herself in the second person).
You know the irony of all this? In the late 90's I remember reading articles in magazines such as PC Mag and what not about how these sort of "social networking" sites were going to be the future of communication. I would open up business week and there would be charts of how small businesses could use these sites to manage their employees and adhere to their customers requests. Also long drawn out articles would praise these sites saying that they provided instant communication between "colleagues". Now keep in mind at that time none of these sites existed so it was pure speculation. Positive speculation at that.
..And who knew that they would turn into poster boards for people to say on "i 3> j.lo"
..And who knew that they would turn into poster boards for people to say on "i 3> j.lo"
This argument is posed constantly to me by friends, when I explain why I don't use myspace... but still it leaves me bewildered.. if you already know the people.. then why not talk on the phone, talk on an IM client, email them, or even put the effort into seeing them? It's ten times faster than leaving a comment at the bottom of someones poorly designed myspace, that they have to login to.
Perhaps not the 'legendary' Mr Tom, but I'm sure the world wouldnt mind if Mr Murdoch was kept out of the way for a little while...
Dear me.. when did having 8 different videos from 3 different hosting sites, and 12 bands songs on one single page render a website as 'well designed'? And thats before even looking at the horrid colours and table layouts... eww
I found that quote quite laughable.. something like MySpace is incredibly hard, if not impossible to keep secure.. there will always be naive kids that want to meet up with someone they've met on the Internet.. if the best MySpace can do is put a warning on the index page, it doesnt bode well for 'committing itself to Internet safety'.
*breathes*
Anyway, although I don't condone myspace as a social aid, and wouldnt be that bothered if it did shut down, I don't agree that people such as the woman mentioned, should be able to sue for her childs actions.
myspace should not have taken on the plight of senseless advertising to mid life crisis-living married men looking to refinance their house, consolidate their loans, or find true love ELSEWHERE.
I hope MySpace gets sued out of existence. Someone has been impersonating me and placed up a Myspace page with my name! I've tried contacting the operators of that site to shut down the page, and so far, I haven't received a response.
They really need to verify identities since there is so much room for abuse.
They really need to verify identities since there is so much room for abuse.