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Discussion in 'Mac OS X Server, Xserve, and Networking' started by Apocrathia, Jul 3, 2011.
Um, where is it?
Should still be in Server Admin, that is just "Server" - though I haven't yet checked the Golden Master.
it is not there
It is not in there anymore!
Like many features (Samba, FTP, printer spooling and probably more), it's MIA.
It'll be interesting to see. Surely they will turn up in the final release.
No "surely" about it since the GM doesn't have it.
IMHO if MySQL goes missing from Lion Server, Apple will be missing out on a huge target audience of people who want to develop PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL applications on their own computer. Basically an Apple made alternative to MAMPPro, that also provides a bunch of other goodies.
Although having a centralized front-end to enable/disable service is handy, I wouldn't go all dramatic. It's trivial to install MySQL.
Why not just download it from the MySQL site? If you're developing PHP/Python/Perl + MySQL apps, why even bother with the extra cost of the server add-on? You've already got PHP, Python, Perl and Apache2 out of the box on Lion: all you need to do is enable the PHP module in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and install MySQL from http://www.mysql.com
another thought - what happens if you are doing an in place upgrade from snow leopard server and have, for example, wordpress installed. do they actively remove mysql? do they remove the database data?
Why not just download it from the MySQL site?? The same reason why MAMPPro exists. Sometimes you'd rather just download a package that sets up all of the little bits for you.
Most of the extras OSX server gives you could be downloaded or installed in other ways.
If I download MAMP and install, could I cause any conflicts with the built in php, python, and perl ?
MYSQL has been replaced with PostgreSQL - apparently due to Oracle MYSQL licencing issues.
As long as they aren't turned on via Server then I wouldn't have thought so.
People looking for a GUI to the PostgreSQL in Lion Server - phpPgAdmin is quite useful: http://phppgadmin.sourceforge.net
Got a link for those "issues"? Not saying your wrong, just curious what the issues are.
...essentially MySQL has moved from Open Licensing to being mostly Open (GNU General Public License), and not to be bundled with a commercial package (Mac OS X) unless an additional enterprise license is held.
But here are some articles that I found useful on this MySQL issue as I will be developing WordPress sites that need to migrate over to real hosts:
Interesting. I knew Oracle buying them was gonna have some sort of issue.
Thanks for the other 2 links too, I haven't upgraded my MP to lion yet, but those will help when I do.
Yup, the company I work for has a product that integrates MySQL. We have to pay a not-insignificant fee for the pleasure.
We have a second product that we acquired for which MySQL is one of the database choices. We chose *NOT* to ship MySQL with the product, simply because we'd have to get a SECOND distribution license. Instead we just tell customers to download and install it themselves. (The license for our other product states we can't share that MySQL install, so for customers that use both of our products, we can't even share our existing MySQL license.....)