So I'm in a little tight spot at the moment. I am forced to choose between a Nano 199.00 and Zen Micro 179.00 Of course I really want the iPod, and not the Zen Micro. My dad is the source of this terrible struggle. He obviously hates Apple, refuses to use iTunes, or listen to any sensible talk about Apple. I have been eyeing a 4th Gen Refurb, but when I brought up the subject he says "Don't buy refurbished! they are returned for a reason. besides the apple's don't have a Radio tuner." Help! I have until about 11 PM I know how pitiful I sound!