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Tried it (at a mate’s house - not having that tacky nonsense at home thanks!) and as well as looking tacky, it is disruptive and takes the viewer out of the experience.
The changing abstract lighting just disrupts the viewing experience and makes it overall worse.

Let’s face it, if this really was such an awful d to enjoying an immersive experience, then cinemas would have rushed to implement it ages ago.
They haven’t.
Because it’s a distraction.
He talking about bias lighting. You are talking about active ambilight type lighting. Totally different. I agree bias lighting is really good. Ambilight type loghting not so much.
 
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This is the kind of innovation Apple should bring to Apple TV. Allow it to send the screen information to Homekit (and Matter)-enabled lights so you can sync them to your TV. No need for cameras, HDMI boxes etc - just a HomeKit/Matter RGB lightstrip around your screen. Just a one time calibration (so the Apple TV knows which LEDs are on which part of the screen).
 
At least it looks like it's not subscription based. I have the previous version of the camera operated backlights. The camera is so simple it just works, and you cant even notice it the way i have it setup.
 
The camera is definitely annoying but it’s how they try to work around the content protection HDCP stuff. They generally cant just sniff HDMI traffic because some content, like Netflix and Blu-ray, encrypt the stream. It’s possible to intercept and decrypt traffic, but it would have to be reencrpyted before being sent back out and require a special liscense to do and it’s just such a pain.

The simplest solution is to just have TV manufacturers throw some addressable LEDs on the back of the TVs. Super simple, super cheap, the signal is already decrypted and analyzed in the TV anyway…..but instead this exists.
So, how does Hue get around this?..
 
Hmmmm. Why. Can’t I just have a bigger screen and then do PiP bias lighting?
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He talking about bias lighting. You are talking about active ambilight type lighting. Totally different. I agree bias lighting is really good. Ambilight type loghting not so much.
Yeah, bias lighting, if I'm understanding it correctly, is just a white led at about 10% of the screen's brightness. Supposedly this does reduce eye strain and improve contrast. But in the context of this article, I do wonder if that is really what he was talking about.... not sure why you would bring it up in a discussion about these nanoleaf thingamabobs.
 
I hope it's more reliable than the first version. I have had nothing but problems getting it to work, or to sync with other Nanoleaf products
 
Immersive makes me feel like I'm immersed into the movie. Lighting up the wall behind the TV, reminding me that I'm watching a TV, does the opposite, reminds me I'm watching a TV.
Then, as I told someone else here — this product isn't for you.
 
Hue spent more money than they did and bought the license, built the more expensive hardware, and even then its not bulletproof and can sometimes act up in ways the camera method would avoid.
100% Hue's setup also costs noticeably more. I haven't run into any issues with it, but I'm sure there are some instances.
 
I use a Govee setup behind my 85" TV.
But, no moving lights. More of a variable bias light.
I do a solid color behind the TV. It is variable brightness based on the brightness of the on screen image.
Color is determined as a blend of on screen color.
Brightness is never overpowering. No reflections on screen. Just enough light to help ease eye strain. Especially when a dark image goes super bright with HDR.
I think the lights moving around the screen and changing color based on what is on screen can be distracting. The setup I have is immersive and fades into the background. It complements the viewing experience. Many skeptical folks who come to the house to watch a movie leave wanting the same setup.
 
It can actually have the opposite effect, because the surrounding color distorts the perception of the actual movie frame and can detract from its detailed contents. The distribution of colors and the picture composition is distorted, and movement outside the frame detracts from its contents. It’s similar to how a brightly lit movie theater with mirror walls is less immersive than a dark movie theater.
It can, but there is a relevant difference between front projection (movie theaters) and back projection (typical home television systems). If you watch a TV in very dark light, the light and bright colors can be both jarring and unrealistic. A blue sky displayed brightly on a TV in a dark room registers to our eyes as a blue sky, but may be jarring or even subtly painful. Bias lighting, which is what these lighting solutions amount to, can make this considerably more comfortable and natural to view. You still see the sky, but you don’t squint because of the brightness. Good bias lighting is more immersive in that it helps you take in the TV content in a more focused way.

Where many people go wrong is by making the bias lighting too bright and/or too saturated. If you actually notice colors changing around your TV screen, then it is the opposite of immersive. But if it’s sufficiently subtle, it can help a great deal.
 
I think these look amazing ...in a YouTuber's studio. I can't say that I see the appeal myself on a day to day basis. It makes for a great photo but I think I'd find it all too distracting for my home office setup.
That's for a living room TV, not your computer monitor.
 
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Yes, thanks, I was replying to the person who was saying that it's encrypted etc.
The issue with using a sync box like Hue or any of the others is that they are more expensive, and they require updates whenever the HDMI standard changes. If you bought one before HDMI 2.0 (support for 4k and HDR), for instance you would have had to get an upgrade. Then again if you had a TV that uses HDMI 2.1 (4k120 , 8k60, VRR, LLM). Plus given how finicky HDMI signals can be, you are taking a chance introducing yet another link in the chain, especially if you rely on CEC. Some of the cheaper ones don't even pass CEC through at all, so you have to either get up and switch inputs by hand or use yet another remote.

And finally, a sync box is useless if you are using the internal TV apps or tuners. The camera doesn't look great and can pick up ambient light from the room, but it's a simple install and works with anything on screen. I have a Govee T1 mounted to the bottom of my Sony OLED. Love the immersion.
 
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The issue with using a sync box like Hue or any of the others is that they are more expensive, and they require updates whenever the HDMI standard changes. If you bought one before HDMI 2.0 (support for 4k and HDR), for instance you would have had to get an upgrade. Then again if you had a TV that uses HDMI 2.1 (4k120 , 8k60, VRR, LLM). Plus given how finicky HDMI signals can be, you are taking a chance introducing yet another link in the chain, especially if you rely on CEC. Some of the cheaper ones don't even pass CEC through at all, so you have to either get up and switch inputs by hand or use yet another remote.

And finally, a sync box is useless if you are using the internal TV apps or tuners. The camera doesn't look great and can pick up ambient light from the room, but it's a simple install and works with anything on screen. I have a Govee T1 mounted to the bottom of my Sony OLED. Love the immersion.
You're absolutely right — my workaround is not using TV apps, rather I use an TV & a Blu-Ray that are both plugged into the sync box. This way you can view anything, like DVDs/BR's and even your video files, with the function.
 
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Immersive makes me feel like I'm immersed into the movie. Lighting up the wall behind the TV, reminding me that I'm watching a TV, does the opposite, reminds me I'm watching a TV.
Try the lightning scene in Pixar's Up. The on-screen lightning flashes lit up the room with my Nanoleaf 4D. Very cool. 👍🏻👍🏻
 
Try the lightning scene in Pixar's Up. The on-screen lightning flashes lit up the room with my Nanoleaf 4D. Very cool. 👍🏻👍🏻
Cool yes, immersive no. Most theaters and Home theaters spend a lot of money making sure the light from the screen does not reflect or lightup the walls, ceiling, and floors, for a more immersive feel. This does the exact opposite.
 
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It can actually have the opposite effect, because the surrounding color distorts the perception of the actual movie frame and can detract from its detailed contents. The distribution of colors and the picture composition is distorted, and movement outside the frame detracts from its contents.
Yep. Some non-moving/flashing neutral bias lighting around the screen can help with eye strain, but blinky lights no matter how cool they might seem don't really help with the viewing experience.
 
Yep. Some non-moving/flashing neutral bias lighting around the screen can help with eye strain, but blinky lights no matter how cool they might seem don't really help with the viewing experience.
Eye strain can and should be addressed with neutral-white bias lighting.
 
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