Insane price for snake oil. It may appear to "work" simply because the phone isn't as easily damaged/scratched as most of us believe. Did you get a refund for writing the review since you weren't given it free originally? I kid...sort of. 
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Nanostate Onyx Review
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No refund! Although I might ask for one!Insane price for snake oil. It may appear to "work" simply because the phone isn't as easily damaged/scratched as most of us believe. Did you get a refund for writing the review since you weren't given it free originally? I kid...sort of.
You have no idea about ceramic coatings Bro, for one you have not even seen the product and you claim yeah yeah it's ceramic coating, how do you know? have you seen it? The information you are passing on pure bull, I have the product in my hand and I know 100% it's not ceramic coating and I think maybe you are associated with Gtechniq as you keep dropping the name? If you going to say something at least know what you're talking about and have something to back it up.
Sorry bro, I've only applied a fair few ceramic coatings bro, didn't mean to hurt your feelings bro.
Their brand name implies they're using a 'nano technology' which is a bit marketing but basically implies that it's either a ceramic coating or something very similar. If it's claiming to be scratch resistant (it is) then it better be ceramic, otherwise it's not really doing anything at all. There's many similar 'nano' based products that offer things such as hydrophobic qualities for windscreens etc, but do not offer any scratch resistance. Lately more varieties of the product have come around that are trying to make it easier to apply, the original products took a while to cure and needed to really be done in a sterile environment (easy for a phone, much harder for a car).
I have no affiliation with Gtechniq, they're just a well regarded brand in the detailing world, one of the first people to really offer ceramic based protection for a consumer, there's numerous off shoots, as said they most likely all come from Asia with very small variances in the ingredients and required results regarding ease of application, scratch resistance and life. I've actually never used Gtechniq (I've got a bottle of their wheel protection sat next to me, but who's got the time!) as I work with a guy who runs a small detailing product company and I've used his more generic solutions as he gave me them free to test, but they're all very similar really.
I'm merely talking from experience with similar products, and a fairly basic understanding of how they work. Not to mention how long and expensive producing a custom made product would take, something that would be impossible for this company to have carried out considering the rumours of a Jet Black only came out about a month before launch, and they wouldn't have had any to actually test it on either. Consider how they make their claims for durability, life and scratch resistance when they wouldn't of even had an iPhone to test it on before they kick started their marketing machine, let alone have actual evidence that it would prevent scratches, or how it would withstand constant exposure to things like the natural oils on our skin.
You signed up yesterday, if anyone is associated with a company it's you. Ironically I probably live closer to Nanostate than you do as well.
I ordered two of this product as well (one for me, one for my GF) as the scratch test video with 9H pencil they posted seemed promising. They cost me almost $100 for two of them incl. shipping to my country (I live in asia).
I was worried about the product's chemical/oil/water resistant properties so I actually wrote them an email asking if daily exposure to water/soap/oil on the skin could damage the coating.
Well, the answer was no and they seemed pretty confident that once the coating has settled, it is unlikely that water could wash off the coating. They told me that their Onyx coating is waterproof and chemical resistant so they would withstand day to day exposure to moisture, oil and such without being damaged.
Which led me to believe that your coating might not have broken down or washed off from oil/moisture on your hands as you claimed. Maybe possible in six months, but I don't think that it can happen in just two days of daily usage - provided that you believe in what they're saying.
I suspect that the coating - not the phone's finish itself - is what had been damaged to show the micro abrasions you saw on the phone, which must have come from some sort of a quartz-based grain of sand or dust.
Also, that the coating withstands a stroke from 9H pencil does not mean it has a *Mohs hardness scale* of 9. A 9H pencil is on around 5-6 of Mohs hardness scale, so I'd say the coating must be at least harder than that, but not super harder. Realistically, I suppose the coating's hardness would be around 6 or 6.5.
On the brighter side, that puts your Onyx coated back plate to be almost as resistant as the gorilla glass on the screen(hardness 6.5-7). Might not seem to be much, but that is a whole lot harder than its original aluminium surface, which has a hardness rating of 2.5.
TL;DR: The Onyx-coated Jet Black finish won't be impervious to damage, but hopefully it would retain much less scratches than it would without the coating.
I was worried about the product's chemical/oil/water resistant properties so I actually wrote them an email asking if daily exposure to water/soap/oil on the skin could damage the coating.
Well, the answer was no and they seemed pretty confident that once the coating has settled, it is unlikely that water could wash off the coating. They told me that their Onyx coating is waterproof and chemical resistant so they would withstand day to day exposure to moisture, oil and such without being damaged.
Which led me to believe that your coating might not have broken down or washed off from oil/moisture on your hands as you claimed. Maybe possible in six months, but I don't think that it can happen in just two days of daily usage - provided that you believe in what they're saying.
I suspect that the coating - not the phone's finish itself - is what had been damaged to show the micro abrasions you saw on the phone, which must have come from some sort of a quartz-based grain of sand or dust.
Also, that the coating withstands a stroke from 9H pencil does not mean it has a *Mohs hardness scale* of 9. A 9H pencil is on around 5-6 of Mohs hardness scale, so I'd say the coating must be at least harder than that, but not super harder. Realistically, I suppose the coating's hardness would be around 6 or 6.5.
On the brighter side, that puts your Onyx coated back plate to be almost as resistant as the gorilla glass on the screen(hardness 6.5-7). Might not seem to be much, but that is a whole lot harder than its original aluminium surface, which has a hardness rating of 2.5.
TL;DR: The Onyx-coated Jet Black finish won't be impervious to damage, but hopefully it would retain much less scratches than it would without the coating.
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Well, considering I use pretty much the exact same spot on my jeans to clean the front and back of my iPhone, and the glass has zero scratches, I doubt most of what they're claiming. I do think it helps some. The scratches I have are really really really hard to see, even in direct lighting at various angles.
I'm just hoping that the product lives up to half of its promises. I'd hate myself if the coating does nothing and therefore reveals that I had wasted a good $100 on something I could've otherwise spent on something constructive.
I'll post how mine fares against day to day wear and tear when the product (and my phone) finally arrives. In the meantime, I'll check back on this post to see how yours is doing.
Those were my exact thoughts when reading this thread. In fact, I'm noticing quite a few newbie accounts pop-up in the past week that are rigorously defending Nanostate - would make sense too given the fact that the official Nanostate account on MacRumors was suspended for being unprofessional.
I'm sure the moderators are watching it closely.
I've asked for a refund but never heard back. A bunch of the videos have mysteriously disappeared from their website. Save your money - doesn't work.
Check out this video guys.
Seems like there is solution for Jet Black phones after all.
Has anyone heard of this company before?
https://nanostate.co/product/onyx/
Seems like there is solution for Jet Black phones after all.
Has anyone heard of this company before?
https://nanostate.co/product/onyx/
Nanostate Onyx Review
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Yeah, sham it 'tis
Just think.
If such coating exists and works well, lasts, why wouldn't Apple use it?
If such coating exists and works well, lasts, why wouldn't Apple use it?
I bought the onyx, and the liquid sapphire, also got the back alien skin free, took 3 weeks to arrive, I'd love to give my review, but still waiting for the JB 7+ From pre launch.
This stuff doesn't do anything. I eventually got a refund and just bought a TOZO case.
