...and then they got their a$$es kicked. If an American team did that they'd call it obnoxious. Which it kinda seems like.
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NBA Superstars Stunned by New Zealand basketball team's Haka Dance
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LOL, lighten up. Its just a culture thing, as if your team acted out an Indian War Dance prior to the game. Off course we got our a$$es kicked, everyone knew that would happen, your the best , we aren't.
Exactly. One thing I really admire about the Kiwis is the fact that they honour and pay respects to their indigenous people; unlike a certain NFL team located on the east coast, or shows their ignorance of atrocities suffered by indigenous people, like a few college football teams.
BL.
Do you even know the history of the origin of the word "Redskin"? My guess is no, and you probably think it is a term for a scalp. They named the team in honor of a great Native American coach, not to mock people. My Grandmother is full-blooded Native American and I can assure you that our people started using the term "redskin" to identify ourselves well before Europeans made it a "racist term". You should brush up on your history or even try talking to an actual Native before jumping on this ridiculous media bandwagon.
Dude. I'm Choctaw Indian. I am more than fully aware of the term and what it is used for. I'm descended by blood from someone directly on the Dawes Roll, and am staring not only our CDIB cards, but also the letter he received from the chairman of the Commission for the Five Civilized Tribes when he was born.
Your assumption is dead wrong.
Back on topic, you may want to look at the NCAI, and how they have been fighting this issue since the 1960s and earlier. As for 'tradition', an Appeals Court judge recently said something profound, with regards to striking down a couple of gay marriage bans:
If Snyder was so adamant that the we natives would be kosher with the term, he should ask the tribes close to him to see what they say. He'd find out otherwise:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...d4d3b2-3ad6-11e4-8601-97ba88884ffd_story.html
BL.
Dudes, I am a Kiwi, a New Zealander, I have been to the US 8 times, and I am sorry that this thread has moved to a racist theme. I would love to know the US and Indian context, but please , factual, not racist. Feel free to PM
Stop right there. This argument will never go anywhere. You are part of a tribe from the South. You have a much different view on the topic then I ever will, and rightfully so. I do not assume anything on the subject. If you did a poll at every reservation in the nation, I would bet a substantial amount of money that the majority of the Native population does not care either way, myself included.
The South as a whole has ruined this entire country with negative talk about different cultures for hundreds of years. People are way too touchy about their feelings. Who gives a **** how you feel?
If we keep changing everything to avoid select hurt feelings, we are all going to be robots.
I know how the team got it's name, and I know what it was meant to imply. I have spoken to many people that belong to the organization, in depth. I work within the NFL. The team is located in our nation's capital, so I am guessing every President has as well. So, why hasn't the name changed? Everyones racist? No my friend, it is you and the NCAI that are doing the assuming.
Alrighty, it appears this is headed to PRSI, so let's go ahead and take it there.
You say you 'know' how they got their name. I say you are wrong. The NCAI has been fighting this for over 50 years, but apparently, you are the only one who is right on this.
Have you even noted the number of tribes who are against this, from both the North AND south of this country?
A small sample:
Oneida (from the north)
Cherokee (from the east and south),
Choctaw (from the east and south)
Minnetonka (north)
Chippewa (north)
Dakota (north)
Standing Rock Sioux (north)
Lakota (north)
Shawnee (north)
Hualapai (southwest)
Paiute (southwest)
Yavapai (southwest)
Poll of the Indian Tribes? Stop right there. You seem to have neglected the study done that shows that 67% of every Indian tribe in this country finds the word "redskin" to be racist and offensive.
You would be wrong again.
If You want to continue this argument (which I seriously hope you do), there is already a thread for it in PRSI, called What's in a name? - Washington Redskins. Continue it there.
BL.
Which one? I thought the first one was absolutely hilarious, with regards to the reaction of Team USA.
The second one was like two warring factions about to have at it.
The third one I can't stop watching, because it's that good. Though, I'd have to say that I enjoy seeing the Kapa o Pango more than the Ka Mate, because it just looks more intense and intimidating, and that's saying a lot because Ka Mate is intimidating as is. The Ka Mate against the French, at the end of it with that tall guy with the beard just looked like the staredown you'd see between Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant.
BL.
Reviving an old thread,,,,, If you haven't seen this yet, this is awesome...
http://www.hefty.co/dawson-tamatea/
http://www.hefty.co/dawson-tamatea/
If you're referring to basketball, realize that that isn't the primary sport down there, as rugby, soccer, and a few others are more prevalent than basketball. However, if they busted out Kapa o Pango, there may have been a few fights prior to the game starting.
Below is the clip of the All Blacks performing Kapa o Pango for the first time.
However, the Haka isn't just for intimidation or use in sport. From Wiki:
The post by @rhett7660 shows that, as a high school's gym teacher had died after being at that school for 30 years. At his funeral, all of his students came back and performed the haka in front of the funeral procession.
EDIT: Here ya go.
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The vid of the school is great.My sister lives near Huntly where a lot of Haka groups are based you get 500 guys practising and it'll scare the ***** out of anyone and can be heard several miles away.