need a stylus, pencil...

Discussion in 'iPad Accessories' started by David Taub, Apr 16, 2016.

  1. David Taub macrumors newbie

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    For an iPad mini 4 I just bought. For drawing, painting, sketches, etc...

    Would love some recommendations please.

    Thanks
     
  2. jrs22 macrumors 6502

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    The functionality seems to vary with the app. I like procreate, but there have been problems with the Adonit Bluetooth models. My Adonit touch 4, which used to work perfectly, now skips. My old Wacom intuos creative 1 woks well. If you don't need pressure sensitivity then a dumb stylus might be best. There's something about the screens on the air 2 and mini 4 that causes problems that don't exist with the other models.
     
  3. mixel macrumors 65816

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    Wacom Creative Stylus 1 is my most balanced recommendation (especially if you add a bit of sponge inside the nib, weirdly.) the Adonit Jot Touch 4 is by far the "best" stylus I've owned though, if you don't mind using a plastic sliding disc as a nib.. The Wacom cs1 is a little more reliable in my experience. The JT4 tends to require fiddling/maintenance of the ball socket/nib or it can stick/skip. Adonit moved onto the pixelpoint styluses over the disc-tipped ones despite the fact the pixelpoint ones are nowhere near as precise and they don't like working right on some iPads at all (Air 2 particularly.) you could ask people about the mini 4 at the procreate forum, where people will be able to tell you which styluses work best for them.. It's weird but some styluses work drastically better with some models than another's (either because of iPad tech changes, like the Air2's screen, or ergonomics of the stylus, etc.), so it's best to seek people in the same boat.

    http://procreate.si/forums/ if it's any help. :)
     
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    NewTrent retractable stylus. Best I've ever used. Not the usual rubber tip.
     
  5. Commy1 macrumors 6502a

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    Think any of the Adonit stylus or Pencil 53 are your best bet.
     
  6. sixxmum macrumors 6502a

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    I got Pencil when it first came out (literally the first week) and mine has never really worked correctly. I guess it's much better now?
     
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    I went through lots of styli before getting my iPad Pro. Wacom, Adonit and various others at all sorts of price points. Honestly, none really lived up to my hopes and expectations.

    But, for powered styli I'd steer clear of any of the Bluetooth ones and get the Adonit Dash instead, it works on any capacitive screen, gives good results and has great battery life. Unlike the Bluetooth ones it doesn't need an app to be developed with support for a specific device, it just emulates your finger and it's got a nice fine point. It's basically a rollerball pen for touchscreens.

    But disc tipped styli such as the Adonit Jot Touch give far, far better results than any of the powered ones I've ever owned for normal iPads so if you don't mind the clear plastic disc on the end, I'd say save a lot of money and go for one of those.

    If you're interested in "painting" you might want to take a look at the Sensu as well, offers something a bit different.
     
  9. sracer macrumors 603

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    For drawing and painting, I recommend the Bargains Depot Stylus $9 for 4, $6 for 2. I've used them on my Air 2 (before buying an 12.9 iPad Pro + Apple Pencil). Their rubber tips are slightly smaller than others and the length, weight, and balance are terrific.

    I also recommend making your own "artist glove". I followed the instructions in this video and the results were terrific. If I had not had a great deal on the iPad Pro, I would continue to be using this solution on my Air 2.



    For fine control/diagramming, I recommend (and used) an Adonit Jot Classic. Used in tandem with the artist glove, the experience is as good as it gets on the non-Pro iPads.
     
  10. David Taub thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for all the replies. Family problems delayed me a bit in responding.

    My first stylus, I am trying the 53 pencil. So far so good.

    I use it with procreate and sketch from Adobe. Lots to learn. Just scratching the surface.

    Thanks for the info.
     
  11. masotime macrumors 68000

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    Hmmmm... if you're really serious about sketching, you should at least get the 9.7" iPad Pro. This will let you use the Apple Pencil, which is miles better than any other stylus available for iOS devices.

    Oh well.
     
  12. TrueBlou macrumors demi-god

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    It definitely is, I know from experience just how much better the Pencil is than any other stylus for iOS devices. But getting a whole new iPad and Pencil might not necessarily be an option for them at the moment. So there's no harm in starting out with some of the next best options.
     
  13. masotime macrumors 68000

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    Agreed. The OP mentioned that the iPad mini 4 was just purchased though, specifically for sketching, which makes me wonder if it was a form factor decision or an "on-sale" decision.

    On a tangent, I do wonder if the iPad mini form factor will get Pencil support eventually. I'm going to be really confused if they start calling it iPad mini Pro though (iPad Pro mini?)
     
  14. Mr.C macrumors 601

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    Hopefully not literally. :)
     
  15. David Taub thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It was a form factor decision. I needed something small enough to take with me all the time.
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    I do think I'll try another stylus or two just to test. This really is a trial to see if I want to give up pen and paper to write and sketch and maybe start printing my sketch work small at home.

    Still figuring it all out...
     
  16. masotime macrumors 68000

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    Makes sense. The iPad mini is great for portability while minimizing the compromise in screen size.

    I really do hope Apple Pencil support comes to the mini as well. I just hope Apple doesn't let this whole "Pro" marketing terminology become an excuse to not justify it on the iPad mini form factor (not big enough to be Pro? It's hard to tell with Apple these days - the suffix makes little sense to me ever since the 9.7" iPad Pro (then what is the Air 3? is there an Air 3? why buy an Air 3 without Pencil / Smart connector support? and the rant goes on....)).
     
  17. moworks2 macrumors member

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    I get that...i don't see why they won't 'eventually' make an apple pencil available to work with an ipad mini. But I'm not saying they will. Maybe they want to keep the expensive stuff exclusive for a while? who knows...maybe tim cook?...

    Hell, my ipad mini 4 with 128gb, cellular+wifi, cover, and applecare was damn expensive...they don't give these things away...

    I started using apple computers back around 1990 with a IIci. I never thought they'd one day be selling wrist watches and phones. I did buy an ipod in 2008. This mini ipad 4 is my first ipad. And like I said, a test for me. See if we get on or i go back to pen and paper for my sketching and writing. I only hope they continue to make computers I can use for work until I retire.

    They've already stopped making the mac pro I used to buy. The latest version is so expensive and so much overkill for what I need, graphic design and photography, that I now am only using laptops. My last computer was a macbook pro bought in 2008, and i now retired it and I bought another mbp last June...so, no more mac pros for me...

    oh, I see, signed in from home now...i am the op david taub...my sign in while on the road recently in the USA...sorry about that...
     
  18. sracer macrumors 603

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    I am confident that the Pencil is coming to the iPad mini in the guise of the iPad Pro mini. The "Pro" moniker is nothing more than the follow-on to the "Air" and a way of distinguishing which devices support the Pencil and which don't.
     
  19. rjtiedeman macrumors regular

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    Does Apple have the technology locked up for the use of stylus pens on the IPad Pro? Why has the competition not built a better Pencil for all IPads? After all Wacom, Adonit and others were there way before Apple stepped in. I have the Apple pencil but I am looking for options which will work on other devices. I have a feeling they are running out old AMAZON inventory before releasing new improved stuff.
     
  20. zhenya macrumors 603

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    The Pro models have a digitizer layer in the screen that other iPads don't have. This is most of the reason the Pencil works so much better.

    FWIW, I have an Adonit Jot Script and an Adonit Jot Touch collecting dust in my desk drawer. Make an offer anyone!
     
  21. rjtiedeman macrumors regular

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    Pens in the drawer - Progress or waste. One of the most important standards of the industrial revolution was standardized screw threads. Global productivity improved and we all benefited. It's a shame to waste resources.
     
  22. Tron72, May 11, 2016
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    I haven't purchased my iPad Pro yet so I still like to use my Cosmonaut stylus over my Pencil by 53 and Pogo Connect. It's a fat stylus but sturdy, comfortable and great for blocking in large areas, not so much for fine detail.
    http://www.studioneat.com/products/cosmonaut

    I like the Sensu Artist brush too. http://www.sensubrush.com
    Using a brush for digital painting puts you in a more painterly mindset vs painting with a pen/pencil-type stylus. Which is why I'm hoping the patent news about a brush nib for the Apple Pencil happens. An artist brush with pressure sensitivity would be very welcomed by many artists I'm sure.
     
  23. mrex macrumors 68020

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    really?

    :D

    i think the best stylus i have had it is P53 (air2), apps i use support it also.
     

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