I have a 2009 aging desktop (the old big box 2.66Ghz Intel xeon 4,1) which is the main workhorse for my browsing, logic audio usage, and just about everything else - and have been waiting YEARS for apple to come up with a rational replacement. I need and want a REAL desktop - with multiple hard drive bays (rules out the mac mini or the canister-shaped device pretending to be a computer ) as I have 4 internal HDs, with USB ports galore for my connections to my audio interface, etc., and do not need another screen (rules out the pointless iMac). I also am not impressed with the paltry 256/512 GB flash drive that comes with the current canister macs, which is puny and drives a need for additional drives, which then need to be connected via more cables, taking up more desk space. I have a choice of buying a pc to handle everything BUT logic, but then I'll need two desktops which is idiocy. I have also questioned apple store reps repeatedly, asking them when is apple going to add a real desktop to their lineup, and all I get is shrugs. The current unit I have is beginning to break down, so my decision is being forced to where I might have to walk away from apple products entirely as I'd have to buy cubase to work on a pc. There HAS to be a big enough demand of the public for a real, upgradeable, traditional desktop pc - not everyone wants to surf the web on their 3 inch iphone or 7 inch ipad. What is keeping apple from producing a real desktop computer?