As you have read, I can't decide between the Ipod touch 4gen 64gb, and a refurbished Ipad 1st gen 64gb deal from Apple site. They both are around $400.00 USD. I would like the ipod touch b/c i currently own a ipod classic, an would like to get into the world of apps, and games(i never owned a console). What do you guys think for games and music and apps, should i go for one over the other? What are the other perks in the ipad? and should you guys think to opt out and go with the ipad 2 as well? Please reply..and thanks for your comments.