Need help picking out a Mac

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by Lil Chillbil, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Lil Chillbil macrumors 65816

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    My dads friend is finaly looking to buy a computer. He doesn't know the first thing about what he needs so I offered to help him pick it out. I mainly agreed to do it because I bought the Power Mac G5 right out from under him before he could get his offer together and I kinda felt bad. He wants one that is pretty cheap and he wants A LOT of power even though all he will do is check his email and read blogs. He also can't see that good so he wants a screen that is BIG not small. So no laptops but he still wants his computer to have wi-fi via airport. so he can use it in the kitchen of his small apartment.
    and his budget for his computeer is $350 total

    So to recap his computer must
    *Be Powerful
    *Have a Big screen
    *Have Airport
    *Be under $350
     
  2. Intell macrumors P6

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    A 20" G4 iMac fits that. For a bit more than the iMac, a dual G5 and a big screen would work as well.
     
  3. Aameiel macrumors regular

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    THIS ^^^ imac would be his best bet
     
  4. zen.state macrumors 68020

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    If it were me I would go with a dual 1.25 or 1.42 MDD and a good third party 24" LCD. Both can easily be had for 350 and it would have a lot more punch than any iMac G4 along with an even bigger screen.

    Aesthetics can only do so much for a person. Real world function will be much better on a dual MDD. I prefer earlier G4 towers but they require a lot more upgrading to get up to speed so an MDD is the best choice for that budget.
     
  5. Lil Chillbil thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yeah I think i'll just get him the last update to the mdd max out the ram and put the best graphics card for it I think its the Radeon 9800.
     
  6. GermanyChris macrumors 601

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    Man thanks for the valiant effort to keep the PowerPC forum up on the list..

    Give him his G5 back, and have him spend his money on a monitor

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    I need to buy you a beer you are possibly more acidic and cynical than I am not to mention your time out time is equal to mine..

    I have to go back to the states in May of next year to Ft. Belvoir. Are you any where ear that area?
     
  7. Ariii macrumors 6502a

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    If you can, see if you can get him a PowerPC XServe. They still have pretty good specs and can be used as a PC. With a nice external display, it could be a good setup.
     
  8. Intell macrumors P6

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    Those are very loud and power hungry. Not something a home user would want to use as a general computing device.
     
  9. zen.state macrumors 68020

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    I used to be allergic to fan noise myself but years ago I accepted it as an important part of the computing experience since it keeps the hardware alive. Computers are really silent when dead from inferior cooling and airflow for the sake of design and picky ears.

    As for "home users".. I'm one and embrace fan noise as the ally of healthy hardware.

    White noise of any type in a room will help block out outdoor neighborhood noises.
     
  10. Goftrey macrumors 68000

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    I would recommend either a dual 1.25 or 1.42 MDD (as others have said) or maybe a dual 1.8 or 2.0 G5 as they are really on the cheap these days. You can fit double the RAM in there - you get 'native' USB2, so no need for a PCI card. You get native SATA hard drives (again, no need for a PCI SATA controller) & overall your getting a quicker machine.
     
  11. drorpheus macrumors regular

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    Xserves are loud, but the G5 Xserves only use 400W power supplies, so they're not too power hungry.

    The early 2005 G5 Dual 2.0 and Dual 2.3 both use 460W power supplies, so they use less power than the higher end G5's that used 600W, the late 2005's use 710W and 1KW power supplies. I think current MacPro's have 960W power supplies and the iMac's use 310W.
     
  12. Ariii macrumors 6502a

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    The power consumption of the G4 XServes are less than that of the PoiwerMac G5, so a G4 might still work. I'm not sure about the fan noise though.
     
  13. Lil Chillbil thread starter macrumors 65816

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    thanks for all of the advice everyone but it just ocourred to me that a mac mini may just fit the build perfect
    its got 1.25ghz G4
    1gb or ram
    40gb 5400rpm hard drive
    dvd-rom drive

    I know where I can buy one for $100 dollars with a third party monitor
     
  14. Ariii macrumors 6502a

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    A Mac Mini is suitable for many people, but just be aware that it won't really provide that much power. I'd say the performance is probably comparable to one of the later iBook G4's, except it's a desktop, of course. If you can, try to find a Mac with a 7448 upgrade, some people sell them for a surprisingly cheap amount. I've recently seen a 7448-upgraded Cube go on eBay for around $200.
     
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    Check out cowboom.com. 17" core duo for $300.
     
  16. VanneDC macrumors 6502a

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    I wouldent recommend any g4 at all. Minimum g5 imAc.
     
  17. zen.state macrumors 68020

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    You just recommended the most unreliable Mac ever made. Well done.
     
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  19. Davy.Shalom macrumors 6502

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    ...No

    I would recommend an early generation mac mini with an intel processor, but if you're going to go the PowerPC route here are the best options:

    1) MDD dual 1.42 = these are hard to find for under $100 but it happens. Check out eBay
    2) MDD dual 1.25 = these are more common and can easily be had for under $100. The remaining money can be spent on a nice monitor.
    3) G5 dual processor 2.3 = most reliable G5 power mac made according to repair records. Make sure it's the dual processor model and not the dual core. I own a dual core 2.3, and it has done well. However, I wouldn't suggest taking a chance unless you get a very good price.

    >>If you do find a G5 with the LCS be wary..they often leak.<<
     
  20. wobegong, Jul 12, 2012
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    I love my G5 don't get me wrong but why dump your PPC fetish on your Dad when he's explicitly said 'Powerful'?

    Go with an early Intel Mini not just because of the speed but also because he will be able to run pretty much anything at all on it. It's fine for you and I to enjoy poking around for PPC tools and hacks/methods around restrictions (like fooling OSX into thinking Flash 10 is Flash 11 eg.) but does your Dad really want that? (Depending which PPC you get him I'm sure you'd also not rather explain to him why he can't even view HD Youtube/flash files when given a cheap early Intel Mini he would ;)

    P.S. - Would a PM (G4 or G5) be that practical for use in "the Kitchen of his small apartment" ?
     
  21. TacticalDesire, Jul 12, 2012
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    Honestly, I would go with a PC. Try explaining the limitations of a PPC machine to someone who knows next to nothing about computers. Maybe one day, he'll want to install a simple game or program and he won't be able to because his machine doesn't support it. Then what happens when flash 10.1 stops working and he can't view the content for a lot of sites. Yes flash is a pain and yes it's become slightly less relevant but it's still a HUGE part of the internet. Then he'll question why he bought a $350 computer that can't do "X". Don't go there. Leave the PPC machines for the geeks. Windows 7 is an extremely user friendly OS and You're guaranteed support until 2020 at the earliest.
     
  22. Lil Chillbil thread starter macrumors 65816

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    mabye i'll just get him a first generation macbook pro running snow leopard
    and use it in clamshell mode with a 26" monitor

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    and it basicly is a desktop made from laptop parts from that era so it makes sense that a g4 mac mini 1.25ghz would have the same performance or less from a 1.33ghz ibook g4
     
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  24. Lil Chillbil thread starter macrumors 65816

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    So to recap what our viable options are so far
    G4 imac
    g4 mdd
    g5 Power Mac
    g5 imac
    g4 mini
    intel 1st gen mac mini
    1st gen macbook pro
    intel macbook
    1st gen intel imac
    Any other ideas are welcome
    and by the way we just raised the budget to $400
     
  25. Intell macrumors P6

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    I'm changing my suggestion to a 2007 Mac Mini or an Intell iMac. They are cheap, run well, have power, and can run more modern things. The best might be a mid-2007 Aluminmum iMac. That way he can run Mountain Lion if he so chooses to. The 20" ones are starting to get rather cheap, being 5 years old.
     

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