Need Help: Screen Sharing Between B&W G3 10.4.11 & Mystic G4 10.5.8

[vlark]

Okay, here's what I want to try out, but I'm not sure will work. Both computers will be on the same network:

1. I have a B&W G3 running 10.4.11.
2. I have a Mystic G4 (PowerMac G4 Gigabit Ethernet) running 10.5.8.
3. I have one monitor, one keyboard, and one mouse (seriously; I have only one monitor)

Here's what I want to do:

1. I want to be able to run the G3 headless (nothing connected to it).
2. I want the ability to boot up & shutdown the G3 remotely from the G4.
3. I want the ability to choose a user at login (no automatic login).

I can do all this via Screen Sharing on the G4 to my other 10.5.8 machines with no problems, everything works out of the box. Obviously, Tiger doesn't have screen sharing. Can I do everything on my "want" list WITHOUT Apple Desktop Remote?

If so, what do I need to do set this up?

 

[Altemose]

Okay, here's what I want to try out, but I'm not sure will work. Both computers will be on the same network:

1. I have a B&W G3 running 10.4.11.
2. I have a Mystic G4 (PowerMac G4 Gigabit Ethernet) running 10.5.8.
3. I have one monitor, one keyboard, and one mouse (seriously; I have only one monitor)

Here's what I want to do:

1. I want to be able to run the G3 headless (nothing connected to it).
2. I want the ability to boot up & shutdown the G3 remotely from the G4.
3. I want the ability to choose a user at login (no automatic login).

I can do all this via Screen Sharing on the G4 to my other 10.5.8 machines with no problems, everything works out of the box. Obviously, Tiger doesn't have screen sharing. Can I do everything on my "want" list WITHOUT Apple Desktop Remote?

If so, what do I need to do set this up?

I may be wrong but Tiger's built in VNC server will accept a different client. As for screen sharing, you should be able to pin the Screen Sharing to the Dock on the G4 and access the G3 by its IP. You first must enable "Apple Remote Desktop" in Sharing preferences. As for starting it, I am not sure short of an older copy of Apple Remote Desktop. Perhaps someone has a Wake On LAN script they can share.

 

[jruschme]

I may be wrong but Tiger's built in VNC server will accept a different client. As for screen sharing, you should be able to pin the Screen Sharing to the Dock on the G4 and access the G3 by its IP. You first must enable "Apple Remote Desktop" in Sharing preferences. As for starting it, I am not sure short of an older copy of Apple Remote Desktop. Perhaps someone has a Wake On LAN script they can share.

It is also possible to configure Tiger's Sharing->Apple Remote Desktop to accept connections from a VNC client (Access Privileges...). If so, one could connect using Chicken of the VNC.

 

[Altemose]

It is also possible to configure Tiger's Sharing->Apple Remote Desktop to accept connections from a VNC client (Access Privileges...). If so, one could connect using Chicken of the VNC.

Leopard comes with a VNC client, Screen Sharing. The OP can pin it to the Dock on the G4.

 

[eyoungren]

I use OSXVNC on our headless G4 at work. It has the option of installing as a service on startup. It runs as a server in the background.

Any VNC client including Apple's own app can connect to it and because it loads at startup you can usually catch the last bit of loading before you hit the login screen.

Install it, open it and find the part for installing the server as a bootup item. Once you do that you don't ever need to open the app again.

Just be careful that you do not delete the app before you shut down the VNC server. I did that once and it took me a year to figure out that the VNC server was still starting and running even though the app was long deleted off my PowerBook.

Note that this is an old version (but it works fine on Tiger). The app was renamed to RealVNC at some point. I have a copy of that, but it's never seemed as good to me as OSXVNC.

 

[vlark]

Thank you, folks.

I will try these suggestions this evening.

Erik, thanks for the OsxVNC hint. If jruschme & Altemose's suggestions don't pan out, this might be the best option--especially since it can work as a service at startup.

 

[vlark]

It worked! And even better than I thought.

I was mistaken about the B&W G3 -- it still had OS 9 on its drive. So I googled an old copy of OS9sync and installed it, ran a crossover cable to the G4 and it worked!

And then I was able to get an old Tenda wireless USB stick to work on my old Grape iMac G3 running Panther, so I dropped OSXvnc on it, fired it up, and it worked, too!

The B&W is running an old game called Susan.

I've got an iMac G5 ALS that I am using to connect all of these, too--the iMac is sharing its wired internet connection over Airport to the rest of the machines.

Pretty damn sweet!

 

[eyoungren]

Glad it worked!

Had I known you had OS9 I would also have suggested OS9VNC, which preceded OSXVNC. When we had our Applescript server running on one of my OS9 Macs that's what I used to see the screen.

BTW, just a reminder. If you've started OSXVNC as a service, you don't ever need to open it. The service takes care of all that. Opening it does nothing extra, except to hit system resources a bit.