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dornoforpyros said:
No, I'm afraid my country isn't full of frivolous law suits that benefit no one. Yes, there is the occasionally one, but no where near the american culture of "lifes not fair, pay me"

Call it cliche' if you must, but there is a reason the rest of the world looks down it's nose at the USA.

Jealousy?

And what makes you think this is a frivolous law suit? Because it doesnt apply to you?

I will admit the tone of the Original poster had somewhat of a give me $$ feel, but the fact is he may have a case.

Whats wrong with the good feeling of being compensated for someone elses neglect that caused you years of pain and discomfort?

I too hate a useless, selfish lawsuit like suing for being served coffee thats too hot, But this is a bit different. McDonalds have been for years adding an undisclosed ingredient that is known to be harmfull to a percentage of the population, American AND Canadian. Why did you make this an "Americans are greedy issue?" I know plenty of greedy Canadians as well as many greedy Europeans. You may not support the Americans who have been affected but I will certainly back the Canadians in the same boat.
 
hold on. you ate at mcdonalds when you were 5, and you're still sick??? :confused: I don't get it.

I would just drop it. Go to a doctor, get it fixed. And never eat at mcdonalds again. :D
 
freeny said:
I will admit the tone of the Original poster had somewhat of a give me $$ feel, but the fact is he may have a case.

Whats wrong with the good feeling of being compensated for someone elses neglect that caused you years of pain and discomfort?

I biggest problem with this guy is he claimed he was hospitalized by the fries on one or more occasion's...THEN HE WENT BACK.

Yes they should have listed the milk ingredients, and yes, if he'd asked about them and been told there were none and then he ended up hospitalized once then, yes, he does have a valid lawsuit on this hands.

But if you eat something once, and you get hospitalized commonsense would say DON'T EAT THE DAMN FRIES. But rather than think for himself he kept stuffing them in and now he wants a big pay off.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...
 
skoker said:
I am sick

...no longer caused by the food from McDonalds but by the arguing going on in this thread. If you are going to post arguing that food allergies are not a valid reason to list ingredients or are going to fight people who are just STATING FACT then please do not post in this thread!!

I've got people arguing with MY HEALTH!!! How in the hell do you do that?


ahh seems to me you started this whole gong-show. Let's go back to the original post
skoker said:
Need Help Suing McDonalds!


Not "Should I sue McDonalds" or "Would you sue McDonalds" or even "Do I have a case"

but it was straight up an affirmation of "I'm gonna sue!" So before you even had any other advice your mind was set on getting a cash payout.

skoker said:
For most people this doesn't seem to be a problem, but for me it is, as I'm VERY allergic to milk and milk products, and have become very ill after eating McDonalds food, once even requiring hospitalization for dehydration caused by vomiting and diarrhea.

So you are aware of this allergy, and the symptoms, and the fact that eating McD's caused the symptoms in question. Yet you kept eating it because?

Even though their ingredient listing was wrong, you knew what it was doing to your body and you never stopped. So regardless of what was in the food that was making you sick (be it the milk or the deep fried sugar/lard in your arteries) you just kept munching away in blissful ignorance.

Take some responsibility for your own actions, 13 years of stuffing your face with something that was making you sick and you still think McD's is responsible?

Honestly I'd have a lot more sympathy for you if this was an isolated incident where you checked the ingredients once, ate it and got sick. But your repeated visits over 13 years shows you clearly have no commonsense when it comes to your health.
 
Total BS

I can't believe I'm the first to say it, but this smells like BS. A 16 year old has been getting sick at McDonalds for 11 years, his parents find out that its due to McD's not disclosing an ingredient that is a major allergen for a significant number of people, and they tell their 16 year old son to think about calling a lawyer?

First, how many 16 years olds possess the resources to initiate a lawsuit like this? Lawyers cost money....lots of money. Second of all, as if 16 year old life wasn't stressful enough, what terrible parents would put the burden of organizing a lawsuit on the shoulders of their son? Why wouldn't they hire a lawyer themselves?

And then on top of all that, coming to a mac rumors site to ask for legal advice? Funny, I don't remember Erin Brockovich going to slashdot for help on her amicus briefs.
 
Some people in this thread need a giant bitchslap.

muffinman said:
hold on. you ate at mcdonalds when you were 5, and you're still sick??? :confused: I don't get it.

I would just drop it. Go to a doctor, get it fixed. And never eat at mcdonalds again. :D

dornoforpyros said:
I biggest problem with this guy is he claimed he was hospitalized by the fries on one or more occasion's...THEN HE WENT BACK.

Yes they should have listed the milk ingredients, and yes, if he'd asked about them and been told there were none and then he ended up hospitalized once then, yes, he does have a valid lawsuit on this hands.

But if you eat something once, and you get hospitalized commonsense would say DON'T EAT THE DAMN FRIES. But rather than think for himself he kept stuffing them in and now he wants a big pay off.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...

dornoforpyros said:
So you are aware of this allergy, and the symptoms, and the fact that eating McD's caused the symptoms in question. Yet you kept eating it because?

Even though their ingredient listing was wrong, you knew what it was doing to your body and you never stopped. So regardless of what was in the food that was making you sick (be it the milk or the deep fried sugar/lard in your arteries) you just kept munching away in blissful ignorance.

READ THE ****ING THREAD PEOPLE!!!

Most of these are on the first page:

skoker said:
To clarify: I did ask for a list of ingredients at McD's (as I do at every restaurant) and checked them before consuming ANY of their food. When I was young, my parents did this for me.

skoker said:
Valid points, but I had no way of knowing that it was the McDonalds food that did it because the symptoms didn't always show up immediately. It wasn't until the hospital analyzed my 'eating journals' that I had to keep for a unrelated cause that somebody there finally put two and two together and figured out why this was happening.

skoker said:
It's not as easy as saying "oh geez, McDonalds food made me sick" as sometimes the symptoms could take 24-48 hours to show up depending on how much I ate and what I ate in the time surrounding it. It was the skilled worker at the hospital I was once rushed to to realize that McDonalds was the common link.

Is it that hard to comprehend? Just look at the last quote I posted. skoker didn't know that it was McD's that was making him sick due to the nature of food allergies. If it did take 24-48 hours to show up, you have roughly 5 other meals (~3 a day) to keep track of if the symptoms didn't start showing up until later. Its not like he ate a fry and dropped to the ground, there's other factors here.

And if you were to bother to read the first quote by skoker I posted he stated that his parents looked at the ingredient list when he was younger and he continues to look at it now. So the bottom line is, skoker is allergic to milk and milk products, he asked for a complete list of ingredients before he ate there just to make sure he didn't get sick but they conveniently omitted any milk product in their fries. (and who the hell puts milk in their fries anyway?)


savar said:
And then on top of all that, coming to a mac rumors site to ask for legal advice? Funny, I don't remember Erin Brockovich going to slashdot for help on her amicus briefs.

People come here for dating advise, why not legal stuff?
 
If you become deathly ill by a substance as innocuous as milk you don't deserve to be paid, you deserve to be shot. Keeping you around is a detriment to the species. Evolution isn't based on the survival of the weakest you know.
 
Johnny Rico said:
If you become deathly ill by a substance as innocuous as milk you don't deserve to be paid, you deserve to be shot. Keeping you around is a detriment to the species. Evolution isn't based on the survival of the weakest you know.

I assume you'll say the same about people with allergies to peanuts and various other substances?

In terms of surivival of the fittest there is something to be said for those who are creative and persistent in terms of their survival. Fittest isn't just about being the most physically strong or humans would have died out a long time ago, my friend. :rolleyes:

Now, lets keep this particular thread constructive, shall we? I think some of these posts have gotten a little off topic and have been more hurtful and vengeful than helpful for skoker, who is just seeking advice.
 
vniow said:
Is it that hard to comprehend? Just look at the last quote I posted. skoker didn't know that it was McD's that was making him sick due to the nature of food allergies. If it did take 24-48 hours to show up, you have roughly 5 other meals (~3 a day) to keep track of if the symptoms didn't start showing up until later. Its not like he ate a fry and dropped to the ground, there's other factors here.


But now he's certain it's the fries? So while he's getting sick from it "ohh this sucks, I wonder what it is" but now "hey some on to blame!" with big dollar signs in his eyes?
 
dornoforpyros said:
But now he's certain it's the fries? So while he's getting sick from it "ohh this sucks, I wonder what it is" but now "hey some on to blame!" with big dollar signs in his eyes?

Just because he is trying to go after a big corporation does not make the core issue any less relevant. Had it been a small company that had proceeded to not disclose potentially harmful information you would not be so spiteful of skoker's request. It seems to me that his reason for the suit, regardless of the defendant, is valid. Strip McDonalds from the claim and it's still the same--a law has been violated, and there was potential harm. Whoever the defendant is should provide some sort of restitution--whether it's monetary or a forced change in their policy for disclosing information. He hasn't said exactly what he wants to sue for. Now whether he can prove it was McDonald's fault for his illness and can prove that milk products are, indeed, in the fries remains to be seen. If he can, then he may save others with a similar condition to his from the same kind of sickness he's had to go through over the last several years.
 
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muffinman said:
hold on. you ate at mcdonalds when you were 5, and you're still sick??? :confused: I don't get it.

I would just drop it. Go to a doctor, get it fixed.
Fer criminy sake, it is not fixable - it is (usually) a genetically determined, permanent condition. You can't get a shot to make it go away.

The only way to avoid getting sick is to not eat foods containing the allergens.
And so you carefully check the ingredients of the food.
And if the seller of the food lies on the ingredients you get sick.
And don't know why you are getting sick

And ... this brings us full frigging circle to Page One of this thread. Don'cha get it?
 
Honestly lawsuits are the bane of our existence in the US. Every time someone is in anyway hurt, offended, bothered or otherwise annoyed, (not to say that skoker's situation wasn't important or worthy in its own right), they turn to lawsuits to turn their misfortune into monetary gain.

Frivolous lawsuits are to blame for the way people in our society are so often treated like babies....tons of warning labels on everything, cars that automatically lock your doors, safety bars and restraints on everything.

All of that junk is because the lowest common denominators had 0 common sense, and went and got themselves hurt, then made millions of dollars suing people for 'damages'.

I don't claim to know much of anything about skoker's case, however, even if it was a painful experience for him, is cash now (other than paying hospital bills), really going to make up for it?

It'd be refreshing to see someone think outside the box and not immediately jump to the weak-ass cop out solution of "SUE SUE SUE!!!"
 
Johnny Rico said:
If you become deathly ill by a substance as innocuous as milk you don't deserve to be paid, you deserve to be shot. Keeping you around is a detriment to the species. Evolution isn't based on the survival of the weakest you know.

Great. I was allergic to milk as a baby. I guess someone should have shot me then. Add to that, peanut oil, dog, cat, horse, and human hair, various trees and grasses. I outgrew the allergy to milk and while most of the contact to things to which I'm allergic is minimal, I'm beginning to think that I'm becoming allergic to humans.
 
vniow said:
Some people in this thread need a giant bitchslap.

READ THE ****ING THREAD PEOPLE!!!

dude. thank you. at last.

this was quite a read. i think that Mc'Dee (is my funky shortuct) is entirely responsible. i know all this crap about corprate cover- up and big buisness with law... and belive me, i know what they get away with is terrible.

this is thier fault, but they will always win. things like this has happened before and they have been buried up with huge amounts of money. worst of all is that the gov knows about it, but every time somone in the gov decides to step up against them, they are approached by a bucket of cash and decide to ignore it.

we know the shpeal.. its unfair.. and inescapable.
 
this thread has caused me emotional distress because I can't believe there are people who have an opposite opinion of mine...

I'M SUING YOU ALL!

:p
 
You know what, if you try and sue macca's the only person that is going to win is your lawyer.... When you first visit him he'll probably have a 400mhz 128mb 10gb Blue iMac and by the time you've lost your lawsuit he'll have a beautiful quaddie with 16gb ram, 1tb, quadro fx and 2x30" monitors. Not to mention the fact that he'll be able to purchase the whole iTunes catalogue. There's atleast 1 million songs up there, which is probably about 5tb worth so he'll need to buy a few of those lacie 2tb external drives, not to mention the iPod's. He would need like 85 60GB iPods(Black or white)(really up to him)(and an iPod Hifi)(for each). See where my story is going...NOWHERE. Just like this pointless lawsuit.
Time to move on from this thread.. and get over it
 
OutThere said:
I don't claim to know much of anything about skoker's case, however, even if it was a painful experience for him, is cash now (other than paying hospital bills), really going to make up for it?

There is something to be said for this kind of suit if it causes the corporation to change its ways for the better.

I don't have a problem with lawsuits as long as the suits and expectactions are reasonable (not asking for exhorbitant amounts of money). Skoker has never said that he is planning to sue for millions. We have just assumed that he will.
 
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