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Ambrosia7177

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Okay, I could use some help with a new mini project. Here is what I am trying to do.

As a consumer, I want the ability to record phone conversations on my MBP which uses VOIP.

Legally, I can do this if I add an audio beep to the call - like when you call your bank.

I have recorded a beep playing every 10 seconds and turned it into an mp3.

Now I need a quick and easy way to launch that soundtrack whenever I place a call, say to Customer Service at some large scummy corporation.

Originally my Mac was set up to play mp3's in iTunes, but for whatever reason when I launched the beep track I would get music or a radio station, and that is the last thing I want to occur on a call! And I don't want to necessarily change iTunes as the default since I have lots of mp3 that I do want to listen to on iTunes.

So here is what I would ideally like...

1.) Create some shortcut in the Dock so with a quick double-click, the track starts playing.

2.) Ideally I would like that specific mp3 to play in some other player that I don't regularly use so I don't end up with it playing a radio station or some song i was listening to before.

3.) When I double-click, I want the track to immediately start playing. (For some reason QuickTime won't do that.)

4.) I need the player to be set to "loop" by default and stay that way, because my beep track is only 10 minutes. (Again, QuickTime makes me manually choose "loop" each time which is a pain!)

The end goal is I need something quick and easy, because if someone calls me or I call them, I need a way to be able to record instantly and the last thing you want to do in such a situation is fumble around or forget to do something and not hve the beep for the whole call.

What I want must be easy to do for you Mac genuises, but my attempts haven't come out so well.

Thanks.
 
Copy file to iTunes, then File > Show in Finder. Drag the revealed file to the Dock. Test opening it by quitting iTunes, clicking it in the Dock, and making sure iTunes opens back up.
Then, in iTunes, click Controls in the menu bar > Repeat > One. This persists after relaunching iTunes for me.
 
Copy file to iTunes, then File > Show in Finder. Drag the revealed file to the Dock. Test opening it by quitting iTunes, clicking it in the Dock, and making sure iTunes opens back up.
Then, in iTunes, click Controls in the menu bar > Repeat > One. This persists after relaunching iTunes for me.

Is there a way to do this and not use iTunes?
 
Is there a way to do this and not use iTunes?

To reiterate, I currently have iTunes set up as the default palyer for mp3's, and I a trying to avoid a situation where music opens up when Iw ant my beep, and since if someone calls me, I don't have time to fiddle, I want a "click-and-go" solution.

Make sense?

I figured maybe there is a way to use a player that I rarely use for this "beep" clip and then I won't get things mixed up. (So it doesn't have to be QuickTime, but since I do use iTunes and VLC more, I'd like to stay away from them, unless you showed me a "bullet-proff" way to do everything in iTunes.)

HTH.
 
If you follow my directions, iTunes should always open to the beep file, and start playing it.
I just tested it on my iTunes Mac and it worked (played automatically). You will also want to make sure Repeat One is always on.

Even if you are already using iTunes or it's already open, clicking the Dock shortcut to the beep will stop anything currently playing in iTunes, and play the beep immediately.
 
If you follow my directions, iTunes should always open to the beep file, and start playing it.
I just tested it on my iTunes Mac and it worked (played automatically). You will also want to make sure Repeat One is always on.

Even if you are already using iTunes or it's already open, clicking the Dock shortcut to the beep will stop anything currently playing in iTunes, and play the beep immediately.

When I started to look into all of this yesterday, I opened iTunes and a radio stationw as playing automatically.

That is what I was afraid of.

Let me try your advice above...
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Copy file to iTunes, then File > Show in Finder. Drag the revealed file to the Dock. Test opening it by quitting iTunes, clicking it in the Dock, and making sure iTunes opens back up.
Then, in iTunes, click Controls in the menu bar > Repeat > One. This persists after relaunching iTunes for me.

Pardon my ignorance with iTunes...

I chose File > Add to Library and choose "beep.mp3"

A thumbnail appeared of some NYT article I saved to my hard-drive like 6 months ago?!

When I double-click on the news artcile I hear my bump-track?!

WTF?

(Personally I think iTunes is a real fubar from a UI standpoint which is why I never use it for anything other than playing mp3's that I have created in Audacity?!)
 
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It sounds like the article is somehow set as the mp3 artwork

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You tell me.

I asked first!

Considering that I have over 20,000 articles saved on my computer from the last 12 months, sure seems strange that some random article would get turned into a thumbnail - especially since it is nowhere near where the beep.mp3 file is.

Yet more proof that iTunes is a fubar.
 
iTunes can only display one graphic per album. If there are two or more songs in the same album that have different album art, iTunes picks one. I don't know how it chooses. It may be alphabetically by title or it might be whichever song was added first.

My guess is that OP has multiple uncategorized audio tracks (songs, podcasts, audio files, whatever) in his iTunes Library. Since the beep audio track is not categorized, it falls into this "Unknown album/unknown artist" bucket.

The album art is probably attached to some audio file, perhaps an MP3 from that particular article/blog entry/whatever.

So the question for the OP is: how many audio files do you have in your iTunes Library that have both no artist and no album title in their metadata?

This is not a question Mr_Brightside_@ can answer.

None of this is particularly relevant to the OP's initial inquiry for which I have no answers.

As for iTunes being a fubar, it should be pointed out that hundreds of millions of iPods, iPads, and iPhones all over the world have been successfully paired to iTunes as a media management library application for nearly two decades. More if you include newer devices like Apple TVs and HomePods which also can stream content from Macs on the same local network.
 
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Do the same Reveal/show in finder for the article, it will give you plenty of info.
Get Info will show when it was added to iTunes
You can add PDFs to iTunes for syncing to iOS, which is why it’s supported in the first place. If it were, say, a .docx, I don’t think it would import.
 
Do the same Reveal/show in finder for the article, it will give you plenty of info.
Get Info will show when it was added to iTunes
You can add PDFs to iTunes for syncing to iOS, which is why it’s supported in the first place. If it were, say, a .docx, I don’t think it would import.
Actually, this is the easier method. Just do "Show in Finder" on the Beep file and see how many items are in that particular directory.

Note that iTunes stores certain kinds of media: books, movies, TV shows, music, etc. in different locations in the hierarchy.
 
iTunes can only display one graphic per album. If there are two or more songs in the same album that have different album art, iTunes picks one. I don't know how it chooses. It may be alphabetically by title or it might be whichever song was added first.

My guess is that OP has multiple uncategorized audio tracks (songs, podcasts, audio files, whatever) in his iTunes Library. Since the beep audio track is not categorized, it falls into this "Unknown album/unknown artist" bucket.

I usually listen to music on this, my old Mac, because audio on my Retina is fubar'ed?!

I'm not sure I have even used iTunes on my Retina other than maybe double-clicking on some mp3's to see what they were.

I have no clue how to use iTunes other than double-clicking on an mp3 in Finder and iTunes launches.


The album art is probably attached to some audio file, perhaps an MP3 from that particular article/blog entry/whatever.

Where? On the Internet?

I don't follow what you are saying...

All of the music (i.e. mp3's) on my computers were created in Audacity. For music I usually add metadata like Artist/Album/Song, but I don't do digital music from stores.

The article was created using Firefox's screenshot add-on and then a second time using Chrome's Full Screen Capture add-on, plus I have a script that scraps the web page and makes an HTML file as a third backup.

I do not have "artwork" for articles or anything in iTunes.


So the question for the OP is: how many audio files do you have in your iTunes Library that have both no artist and no album title in their metadata?

I think I posted a while back asking why in the hell iTunes was storing music in its library, because I never told it to do that. And I think someone here showed me how to delete everything and set things so nothing gets copied into iTunes - which I find offensive that it does that?!

So I don't think anything is in iTunes, but maybe you can tell me how to check again?


This is not a question Mr_Brightside_@ can answer.

None of this is particularly relevant to the OP's initial inquiry for which I have no answers.

Well, I was just trying to follow what he asked me to do in post #5 and things got strange!


As for iTunes being a fubar, it should be pointed out that hundreds of millions of iPods, iPads, and iPhones all over the world have been successfully paired to iTunes as a media management library application for nearly two decades.

It still is a crappy, unintuitive UI.

Hundreds of millions of people use Microsoft Windows, and it is still a POS, so what's your point? ;-)

Popularity and quality are not highly correlated...
 
Nothing you just wrote provides any actual information that is useful for me to make further suggestions. You are just ranting at this point.

I hereby bow out of this discussion.

Best of luck.
 
Do the same Reveal/show in finder for the article, it will give you plenty of info.
Get Info will show when it was added to iTunes
You can add PDFs to iTunes for syncing to iOS, which is why it’s supported in the first place. If it were, say, a .docx, I don’t think it would import.

This is very hard to do on two computers...

I'm starving, but as my supper cools down, I dleted the beep.mp3 from iTunes and tried to add it again, and this time I don't see a thumbnail, and honestly all of this is getting blurry.

Another weird error that cannot be created.

As far as the article, I don't know where that article is at (exactly) because I turned off Spotligt for privacy and security reasons. And being out of work, I don't have the desire to buy Pathfinder so I have a file browser that doesn't spy on me. (It's on my To-Do list when times are better.)
 
Copy file to iTunes, then File > Show in Finder. Drag the revealed file to the Dock. Test opening it by quitting iTunes, clicking it in the Dock, and making sure iTunes opens back up.
Then, in iTunes, click Controls in the menu bar > Repeat > One. This persists after relaunching iTunes for me.

When I drag "beep.mp3" to my Dock it won't land...
 
Most of the dock is used for apps. A file (your .mp3, for example) will "land" when you drag near the "trash" end of the dock.
That's where files and folders sit in the dock.
 
The OP wrote:

"I think I posted a while back asking why in the hell iTunes was storing music in its library, because I never told it to do that."

Uh, because that is what iTunes is DESIGNED to do???? Joe Blow and Mary Smith both have iTunes and they want to enjoy their music on their computers and/or on their mobile devices. They hear an interesting song somewhere, check iTunes and find it available, and promptly purchase the song track so that they can enjoy it on their device(s). BINGO!

iTunes was not meant, by the way, to record and store "beeps" sounds which are then intended to be used as a mechanism in an effort to (illegally) record other people's phone conversations. How many people are even going to notice those beeps in the first place? So, yeah, in the end, their conversations will be recorded without their knowledge. IMHO, that's really going over the edge.....
 
The OP wrote:

"I think I posted a while back asking why in the hell iTunes was storing music in its library, because I never told it to do that."

Uh, because that is what iTunes is DESIGNED to do???? Joe Blow and Mary Smith both have iTunes and they want to enjoy their music on their computers and/or on their mobile devices. They hear an interesting song somewhere, check iTunes and find it available, and promptly purchase the song track so that they can enjoy it on their device(s). BINGO!

When I open up a spreadsheet in MS Excel, does Excel create a COPY of my spreadsheet and store it somewhere special?

Can you name me one other application that takes a document file, duplicates it, and stores it in a special library?

Name me one other than iTunes...


iTunes was not meant, by the way, to record and store "beeps" sounds which are then intended to be used as a mechanism in an effort to (illegally) record other people's phone conversations.

You should go read up on the law before you start accusig me of "illegal" activities...


How many people are even going to notice those beeps in the first place? So, yeah, in the end, their conversations will be recorded without their knowledge. IMHO, that's really going over the edge.....

What country are you from?

If you were in the U.S., and ever called a bank or credit card company, then you'd understand all about beeps...

It is NOT going over the edge recording a phone call when I am having a customer service issue. (Besides, they are likely already recording me.)

And, it is quite legal.
 
Most of the dock is used for apps. A file (your .mp3, for example) will "land" when you drag near the "trash" end of the dock.
That's where files and folders sit in the dock.

@DeltaMac, I tried dragging the file shortcut (?) that @Mr_Brightside_@ instructed me on, but as said, it wouldn't "stick" to my Dock.

Now my Dock is rather full, and since the spaces in between icons is tiny, maybe that is the issue?
 
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