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Need Input on Buying 24+ LCD Monitor

DeusInvictus7 said:
And even more importantly, he does NOT need an IPS panel for what he does.
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And he didn't need to buy a Mac for what he wanted to do either. He could have gone with a cheaper PC. But he went with Apple knowing that with Apple products he can sleep easier as their hardware hasn't been compromised for price.

Why should he go with a cheaper non-IPS panel, for the sole reason it's cheaper?

How can anyone buy a Mac and then go with buy a cheap Dell? It's not like they lack funds or anything.
 
BMWFan said:
The thing is if price was such an issue why did he buy a Mac in the first place? It's clear that he doesn't want any compromise when it comes to design and build quality of the products he uses. For him, Apple displays are the perfect solution.
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Im just going to assume you are kidding.:rolleyes:

But in case you aren't, there is a lot more to a computer than a monitor. He probably bought a mac for the OS? Like most people do. Build quality is debatable case by case and design wise I'll say preference because the new Apple stuff black trim, glass, isn't appealing to me at all. Why aren't apple displays the perfect solution...

OP's criteria... 24"+ monitor, $350 price range, HDMI.

Apple...no hdmi, won't support his MBP unless its a unibody, oh and the $899 price tag is almost triple what he wants to spend.

You also have different budgets for computers and monitors. Did apple not compromise when they made their new display mini-display port only. Did they not compromise by simply ignoring performance and sticking to strickly brand identity across a line by making the monitors computerless iMacs. Your are just trolling which is funny because thats tough to do on a mac site.
 
BMWFan said:
And he didn't need to buy a Mac for what he wanted to do either. He could have gone with a cheaper PC. But he went with Apple knowing that with Apple products he can sleep easier knowing that their hardware hasn't been compromised for price.

Why should he go with a cheaper non-IPS panel, for the sole reason it's cheaper?
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You do have a point about the computer, however, for the monitor it is not just the reason that it's cheaper, but it actually has inputs, where the Apples' don't. Simple, and you can count them out solely for THAT reason. Going with an Apple display for what he wants to do with it IS compromising the hardware, all the while spending MORE money. That is the reason I didn't go with a 23" ACD, because I was not going to be happy with having to swap display cables all the time when I want to watch a blu-ray or play a game. And to go even further, an IPS panel generally is BAD for what he wants to do. Slow response times, high input lag...just things you do not want in a display unless you are just doing photo critical work.
 
BMWFan said:
And he didn't need to buy a Mac for what he wanted to do either. He could have gone with a cheaper PC. But he went with Apple knowing that with Apple products he can sleep easier as their hardware hasn't been compromised for price.

Why should he go with a cheaper non-IPS panel, for the sole reason it's cheaper?

How can anyone buy a Mac and then go with buy a cheap Dell? It's not like they lack funds or anything.
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Should he buy an Apple product that won't do what he needs at all?
 
xhambonex said:
Im just going to assume you are kidding.:rolleyes:

But in case you aren't, there is a lot more to a computer than a monitor. He probably bought a mac for the OS? Like most people do. Build quality is debatable case by case and design wise I'll say preference because the new Apple stuff black trim, glass, isn't appealing to me at all. Why aren't apple displays the perfect solution...

OP's criteria... 24"+ monitor, $350 price range, HDMI.

Apple...no hdmi, won't support his MBP unless its a unibody, oh and the $899 price tag is almost triple what he wants to spend.

You also have different budgets for computers and monitors. Did apple not compromise when they made their new display mini-display port only. Did they not compromise by simply ignoring performance and sticking to strickly brand identity across a line by making the monitors computerless iMacs. Your are just trolling which is funny because thats tough to do on a mac site.
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Apple displays aren't that much more expensive than others, and they're of superior quality too.

If you can justify spending so much extra on a Mac than on a PC with comparable hardware, surely you can justify a few more for a nicely designed Apple display.
 
BMWFan said:
How can anyone buy a Mac and then go with buy a cheap Dell? It's not like they lack funds or anything.
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A cheap Dell? Dell monitors are certainly not cheap. Maybe the crappy TN models are cheap, but the Ultrasharp series are VERY good, and those are not cheap. $500 for a 24" Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP. $1700 for the Dell 3008WFP 30". And the Dell 30 is definitely better than the Apple 30 in every way possible, other than the aluminum look.

I am not trying to sound like a "Dell fanboy" but you are saying things that are going to make people argue with you.

BMWFan said:
Apple displays aren't that much more expensive than others, and they're of superior quality too.

If you can justify spending so much extra on a Mac than on a PC with comparable hardware, surely you can justify a few more for a nicely designed Apple display.
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Honestly, just STOP, since the Apple WILL NOT do what the OP wants. At all. Done. Over with.

And if you really think 3x the price "is not that much more expensive", then you are definitely just looking to argue. Superior quality is meaningless when the monitor won't even do what the OP is asking.
 
BMWFan said:
Apple displays aren't that much more expensive than others, and they're of superior quality too.

If you can justify spending so much extra on a Mac than on a PC with comparable hardware, surely you can justify a few more for a nicely designed Apple display.
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If you compare the Apple display with a cheap dell monitor with the same hardware they aren't very different in price at all. You simply can't justify buying anything that won't even work with your hardware.

Like Deus said, just stop, you aren't helping anyone.
 
Well my advice would be to then wait for Apple to release something that would work with his hardware. Apple is known for listening to its customers. Just send them an email or something.
 
OP, sorry for kinda hijacking this thread. So I have done some searching for you.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014173

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001275

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?EdpNo=4242611&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?EdpNo=4226589&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs

Those are some quick finds.

however the ones you found were pretty good. Its up to you in how much you want out of this monitor. I basically wanted everything you could get in a TV but a monitor. Hope this helps some.
 
BMWFan said:
And he didn't need to buy a Mac for what he wanted to do either. He could have gone with a cheaper PC. But he went with Apple knowing that with Apple products he can sleep easier as their hardware hasn't been compromised for price.

Why should he go with a cheaper non-IPS panel, for the sole reason it's cheaper?

How can anyone buy a Mac and then go with buy a cheap Dell? It's not like they lack funds or anything.
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As someone who worked for a consulting firm that was instrumental in helping apple's supplier set up their factories in China, I can tell you for a fact that you're paying for the case design, name brand, and operating system, not build quality or reliability. I would not sleep any easier with a Macbook Pro than I would with a HP Elitebook.
 
carbonmotion said:
As someone who worked for a consulting firm that was instrumental in helping apple's supplier set up their factories in China, I can tell you for a fact that you're paying for the case design, name brand, and operating system, not build quality or reliability. I would not sleep any easier with a Macbook Pro than I would with a HP Elitebook.
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Can I ask you why you bought a Macbook pro then?
 
carbonmotion said:
yeah that's true...
on a diff. note, what about this moniter?
Samsung SyncMaster T240HD
Built in HDTV tuner! Wow!
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haha thats funny because I think I have recommended that twice now, actually I'm staring at one. I love it personally. It's not the highest quality panel wise, its TN, at least the one I have, but I love the port variety, and the display have awesome customization features built it. Different screen and sound setting presets and build your own presets. There is minor discoloration when you from the sides and if you look down or up at the monitor. Basically keep the monitor square to you and it looks perfect. I have no troubles with connection with my MBP, I run notebook and display monitors at once or the monitor from clamshell mode. I hook directly DVI to DVI. HDMI for my xbox and that's that. Plus the TV.
 
carbonmotion said:
yeah that's true...
on a diff. note, what about this moniter?
Samsung SyncMaster T240HD
Built in HDTV tuner! Wow!
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I was actually going to buy that one, since it supposedly has one of the best TN panels around, and the remote and tv tuner are pretty cool add-ons. But I chose to go with a bigger size, and the T260 is actually more expensive than what I got my Dell 2709W for, which is great, since I do not need the TV tuner. The remote would have been nice though haha.

Keep in mind though, there is BARELY any adjustability on the monitor, I tried it at the local Futureshop and it does NOT tilt, let alone have a height adjustable stand.
 
DeusInvictus7 said:
I was actually going to buy that one, since it supposedly has one of the best TN panels around, and the remote and tv tuner are pretty cool add-ons. But I chose to go with a bigger size, and the T260 is actually more expensive than what I got my Dell 2709W for, which is great, since I do not need the TV tuner. The remote would have been nice though haha.

Keep in mind though, there is BARELY any adjustability on the monitor, I tried it at the local Futureshop and it does NOT tilt, let alone have a height adjustable stand.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-LG+ELECTRONICS-_-24005127

recommended by a friend, what do you think?
 
thats still a TN panel is it not?

I think the Samsung is a better choice for sure. The added Digital Tuner is really nice and you wouldn't believe how much you'll enjoy having a remote. But I did give you that list of monitors if you didn't check them out they are a few posts down somewhere.
 
carbonmotion said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-LG+ELECTRONICS-_-24005127

recommended by a friend, what do you think?
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It's not bad at all really...keep in mind though it IS a TN panel, and it really shows at the larger sizes, that's why most HDTVs are PVA or IPS panels...better viewing angles. The other thing I kinda don't like is the 16:9 aspect ratio, although it is good for movies and games, but for most computer usage, it's just weird using a 16:9 compared to 16:10 on "normal" monitors.

Not a bad choice though. :)

How much is the Samsung T260HD going for in the States right now? Here in Canada it's almost $550 I think. So that would equate to...$450 USD? It's an inch smaller than the LG, but I would actually prefer that, better pixel density AND you get a full 1920x1200 16:10 ratio, that does 1:1 pixel mapping for your games and movies. Done deal I think.
 
DeusInvictus7 said:
It's not bad at all really...keep in mind though it IS a TN panel, and it really shows at the larger sizes, that's why most HDTVs are PVA or IPS panels...better viewing angles. The other thing I kinda don't like is the 16:9 aspect ratio, although it is good for movies and games, but for most computer usage, it's just weird using a 16:9 compared to 16:10 on "normal" monitors.

Not a bad choice though. :)

How much is the Samsung T260HD going for in the States right now? Here in Canada it's almost $550 I think. So that would equate to...$450 USD? It's an inch smaller than the LG, but I would actually prefer that, better pixel density AND you get a full 1920x1200 16:10 ratio, that does 1:1 pixel mapping for your games and movies. Done deal I think.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...E&N=2010190020 50001077 1309846874&name=25.5"

459.99 for the 26" 329.99 for the 24"

Yeah the 16:10 is the better choice for computing and yes the Samsung does 1:1 pixel mapping really well. using it right now. It has 4:3, 16:9 Just scan and two adjustable wide views. Thats the options I get.
 
OP, read through this.

In it, you will have opinions about the T240HD, AND the T260HD, and their non HD versions. I was reading it about a month or so ago, and there are some people with some problems with the 260...and the 240 seems to be the better buy.
 
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