Need New Laptop, but the cost...

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  1. frocco macrumors 6502

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    Hello,

    My 7 year old MBP died and Apple said it would be over 1500.00 if they could even get parts.
    Now I am torn between a windows gaming laptop or a new MBP at twice the price.

    I do web development, and had movies on my old MBP which I streamed via Plex.

    Should I give windows a try or spring for the costly MBP?

    Thanks
     
  2. Stephen.R macrumors 6502

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    It might help if you could elaborate a little on what you're considering, specifically?


    I'd be cautious about "giving windows a try" if you're not sure how well it will work for you, for work. If it doesn't work for you, what are you going to do?
     
  3. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Looking at GS63 STEALTH-010, GU501GM-BI7N8 for gaming and web development.
    Also the new Razer 15
    On the MBP, 2799.00 spec
     
  4. maflynn Moderator

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    If you're looking at a Razer or an MSI laptop because of gaming, the MBP's GPU is slower then the GTX 1060/1070/1080 and the newer GTX 2060 -> 2080

    Macs have a lot of advantages, but gaming is not one of them.
     
  5. Bending Pixels macrumors 65816

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    If you really hate yourself, switch to Windows (just my personal opinion - based on direct usage). I've found that Windows 10's regular "Cumulative Update" fixes some stuff and regularly breaks other stuff. I've lost count of the number of times it's broken the connection to a NAS.
     
  6. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I looked at hte new MBA also, I do not have to do gaming, just thought that price wise, the gaming laptops offer so much more. I am having a hard time spending 3000.00 again, and may just get a basic Macbook Air or iMac
     
  7. ncrypt macrumors 6502

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    Get the MacBook Air and an external GPU? It'll compete well with the gaming laptops.
     
  8. rodedwards macrumors member

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    Can an ipad do the job any better ? They are cheaper and quite powerful these days ...

     
  9. TSE macrumors 68030

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    I understand what you are going through - I am using a 2012 15" MacBook Pro myself and when this one dies I'm not sure which direction I'll be headed.

    It really comes down to if MacOS & superior build quality are worth it to you - in that case go the Apple route.

    I will probably end up biting the bullet & going Apple again. Part of me says not to, but my laptop is a tool for me that makes money and something I spend 60% of my life on - so I need the one that I just simply most enjoy. I recently switched back to MacOS after running JUST Windows 10 for two years and forgot how good of an experience MacOS is.

    Windows 10, while great, is still Windows - it has a nice UI, it has great application support, and you can get way better specs for the dollar (like Maflynn said, GTX 1060/70/80 cards are way better than even the highest-spec Vega cards in MacBooks and can be had in PCs for $1500). However, it's still Windows from my very recent experience - it comes preinstalled with a lot of garbage, uninstalling programs doesn't get rid of them all the way, it slows down overtime, & the more you install the more trouble you run into. All of this on top of worse design and some of the Mac intangibles like the audio & trackpad quality missing.
     
  10. Falhófnir macrumors 68030

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    That's probably even harder on the wallet than the MBP though?

    OP - if you can live with a desktop and really don't want to leave MacOS, iMacs are still pretty reasonably priced for what you get currently. A little behind the tech curve, but if the next refresh is a redesign they will likely see a huge price increase like has happened with the various MacBook lines. Other than that it's either pony up for the MacBook (maybe find a sale, or look at refurbished items from Apple if that's possible and acceptable to you?) or go and take a good look at Windows alternatives and get the measure of them.
     
  11. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I think with an IPAD, I would have to rely on a remote server for web development. MySQL, Apache..
    I was thinking about the Macbook Air because it is newer compared to the iMac or MBP.

    I do also have several programs that I purchased that work only on a Mac.
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    I'm seeing the light and will stick to Mac. Is it worth getting AppleCare? That is a lot of money, 379.00 for MBP.
    I am still considering the MBA, MBP and iMac. I have not had a desktop for a long time and I would pick up my MBP while watching TV.
     
  12. Falhófnir macrumors 68030

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    The MBA might be newer, but it's still a lot less powerful than an iMac (dual core 7W laptop chip vs quad core 60W desktop chip!) The iMac will come with a similar or slightly better GPU to the MacBook pro (up to radeon pro 580 - which from what I can see is competitive with a GTX 1060).

    How much power do you need/ what sort of tasks will you be doing?
     
  13. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I guess I do not really need all that power. I like to have the best . :) but have a hard time justifying the price currently.
    I could get buy with a base model of any of these.
    at least 256gb storage
     
  14. Howard2k macrumors 68000

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    That’s AC+ right? You can apparently still get AC which is cheaper, but you have to buy it through chatting with the Apple folks online.

    Yes, I would 100% get AC. But not AC+.
     
  15. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    The difference is that with AC+ you have accidental damage coverage. So you pay more up front for AC+, then you pay again when you leverage it. I’d rather just be more careful. But it’s all about risk tolerance.
     
  17. Stephen.R macrumors 6502

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    If you don’t need the mobility, a desktop will give you better bang for your buck, obviously.

    I went the Mac mini route but it could pretty easily have been an iMac. As great as modern laptops are - mobility does have a cost both in terms of price and in terms of form & function.

    Also remember both iMacs and Mac minis have upgradable memory - none of the current Mac laptops have that.
     
  18. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    Why do you feel the need to spend $2,600+ on a MacBook Pro?

    The one on which i'm typing this reply cost me $1,100.
     
  19. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I guess I was just trying to replace the one I had that cost me that much.
    I really do not need it.
     
  20. oneMadRssn macrumors 601

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    You bought an expensive Apple laptop, but it gave you 7 years of reliable service, including OS updates to the latest and greatest. That's pretty darn good. I doubt any Windows laptop purchased today would give you 7 years of service.
     
  21. Stephen.R macrumors 6502

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    Assuming you mean a second hand one - I personally don’t think this is a good choice if your budget allows for something new, when you consider that this is a tool for work.
     
  22. Moakesy macrumors regular

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    Spend the extra.

    Get another 7 years out of it and it will be less than the 3 to 4 years from a Windows machine.

    I'm about to get £1,000 for my old 2013 MBP. The £2,500 cost new, less what I'm selling it for, means I've had over 5 years of reliable and fast service every day for less than I've spent on my morning coffee at work.

    Maybe I could get the same out of a Windows machine....don't really know as I have no appetite to change.
     
  23. frocco thread starter macrumors 6502

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    That great! I was not so lucky, Apple would not give me anything for it. I see your point through.
     
  24. Stephen.R macrumors 6502

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    I think he meant he sold it, no?
     
  25. Moakesy macrumors regular

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    Yeah, sold it in January, so only a few weeks ago.

    Even if yours has died, you’ll be surprised what you’ll get for it on eBay. Even £100 is better than nothing.

    Be tempted to remove the drive from it though, just to make sure no one recovers any data.
     

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