I'm kind of at war with my mom of why I should have a MacBook instead of a Windows laptop...
First off, I want a MacBook Pro 13" i5. ($1099 Edu discount, + free $100 rebate printer, $100 gift card)
I love the OSx system and I find it a lot more comfortable and organized than Windows computer. The software, such as Final Cut, iWork, and iLife, etc. are pretty amazing.
Then my mom says she found a Samsung with a core i7 that is super fast.
I don't know the exact specs, but I'll take a wild guess. Probably 4GB ram, 14" screen, and 310M Nvidia. Around $800, but she say something about a friend that can get it down to $600 or $700.
(But it's not like we can't afford it or anything, I got $1200 from all my family members for graduation to buy a laptop, plus a bunch of other scholarships)
I assume battery life will be 2-3 hours like the rest of the Windows laptop I've seen. Maybe even 1 hour if I'm video editing. And the laptop weighs aprox. 3-4pounds.
(I hear Apple from personal experience that says MBP can last 8-9hrs idle, 5hrs doing surfing or microsoft office, 3hrs video editing, 2hrs of pure rendering.)
My major in college will be Computer Engineering and I am hoping to work for Apple one day. Even my college computer lab all switched to iMacs and many companies are considering switching to Mac OSx too.
So... what should I do?
Stick with Windows? Or keep trying to persuade?
(P.S. My windows desktop specs are on my signature, but unfortunately, I can't take it to college because my sister needs it)
Why do you need to convince your mom?
If you are going to college, you should be able to use YOUR money to buy what computer YOU want.
If you don't have your own money, get a job, start saving, etc. Your mom is not obligated to spend more money than she feels necessary for your computer. If you want the more expensive hardware, pay for it on your own.
My .02
hahaha... Still trying to find a summer job... applied to over 20 jobs and still no luck yet.
And apparently I'm still a Mommy's boy.... which I'm really starting to hate. Especially this past month, she's like trying to control me. -_-
It sucks, but you have to realize that a mac is a WANT at this point in your life. A windows PC is what your mother is willing to pay for. Perhaps talk to her and see if you can pay the difference between the machines?
Perhaps you can convince her to spend a bit more on the mac because you will receive $100 for the MAS where you could buy iWork and stuff which will save you money not needing to buy microsoft office like you would need to on a windows machine. Also, there is no need for anti-virus which also saves you money. The free printer is also $100 value that would need to be purchased in addition to the windows pc. All of that together really makes the prices a lot closer.
You can also look to used or refurb machines to save some money, although then you would miss out on edu and b2s promos.
dude. i hope i don't come off sounding like a jerk, but i think you gotta take this opportunity to grow up and take responsibility for your own life. you are going to college majoring in computers, so get specifics!
1) you ought to have this info down cold and be able to tell us model numbers, specs, exact prices, etc.
2) you ought to know that apple loses most of the time in price comparisons. why are you bothering with that line of argumentation?
3) you ought to be more specific here about why the osx is better for your needs. i don't mean "better organized." i mean something like (in my case) "global keyboard shortcuts that enable me to input macrons in any application."
4) call your department for goodness sake. talk to students in it (get contact info from department secretary) and ask them their opinions.
make an informed decison based on your own analysis, and regardless of what your mom says, stand up for your convictions. right now it sounds like your mom has thought this through more than you, and i'd listen to her...
If you don't know what Mac you want and have good reason, then maybe your mommy knows best since she knows of specs.
1st Quote: Well, first off, it's my money that I got from my graduation, she's just fighting me to spend it more wisely. But in my case, I think a MBP is a wise investment for college. I do hope a MBP last longer than 1 year, compare to all my other Windows laptop... so yeah.
research. you don't win debates and you shouldn't make decisions based on guesses. i7 samsung laptop? the rf series? get specific.2nd Quote: What? How am I supposed to know the model numbers and stuff if all she told me was a Samsung i7 processor? I only guessed on the rest of the specs cause there's only limited amount of i7 Samsung with that price range.
how is that specific. that is the same criteria i use to evaluate vanilla and chocolate ice cream. go deeper. ask some "why" questions. know thyself and thy osDidn't I just say that OSx has software that I like using and it's more simple than Windows?
all? i doubt it. but, i have been to a lot of computer labs, and i can say that i rarely see more than half macs. i have never seen one that only has them. but, if this is accurate, you just made your case. you'd be a fool to buy a pc and go to a school that only has macs, and your mom would be doing you a disservice.Plus my college's computer is all switching over to Macs, so I hope to learn them soon instead of spending hours in the computer lab figuring out how Macs work.
i'd disabuse yourself of this notion asap. training for a tiny number of positions that people all around the world are shooting for isn't likely to end well, no matter how brilliant you are. and, on top of that, i'd bet a lot of people there are quite familiar with other operating systems. you don't get far being ignorant of the competition (see rim for proof).And I hope that also one day that I can work with Apple. I find it ironic to try to work with Apple with a Windows computer.
ok. kudos to her for finding a deal, though.And my mom knows nothing about computers. The only thing I ever tell her about computers it to look for i7 cause it is like the best processor around.
your school. call the department at your school, ask to get in touch with students or teachers. most departments have faculty and students who serve in is capacity. for example, i'm a dept. rep. and i field questions from incoming students.Call what? Didn't get that part.
all? i doubt it. but, i have been to a lot of computer labs, and i can say that i rarely see more than half macs. i have never seen one that only has them. but, if this is accurate, you just made your case. you'd be a fool to buy a pc and go to a school that only has macs, and your mom would be doing you a disservice.
i'd disabuse yourself of this notion asap. training for a tiny number of positions that people all around the world are shooting for isn't likely to end well, no matter how brilliant you are. and, on top of that, i'd bet a lot of people there are quite familiar with other operating systems. you don't get far being ignorant of the competition (see rim for proof).
your school. call the department at your school, ask to get in touch with students or teachers. most departments have faculty and students who serve in is capacity. for example, i'm a dept. rep. and i field questions from incoming students.
research. you don't win debates and you shouldn't make decisions based on guesses. i7 samsung laptop? the rf series? get specific.
To support the economy.
Well, like I told you, add up the total prices for both machines. The mac is going to cost you $1100 + tax and will include the computer, printer, and $100 towards software.
What is the price of the PC? $800? Then add in $100 for the printer, $100 for MS Office, $60 for anti-virus (don't really know of AV prices these days)... now you are looking at $1060 for the PC, not really much of a savings. Perhaps that will encourage your mom to go for the mac.