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If you can afford the Samsung T5, I’d get that. It will be probably the fastest option you can get without completely breaking the bank. It would more than suffice for what you need.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Just one more question, if you don't mind. I guess the only "step up" would be something like this? https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-970-E...F8&qid=1532630678&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+970

+ some $30 dollar enclosure that makes it a portable drive. Then I would have an external setup that mirrors internal speeds of the new MBP?
 
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Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Just one more question, if you don't mind. I guess the only "step up" would be something like this? https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-970-E...F8&qid=1532630678&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+970

+ some $30 dollar enclosure that makes it a portable drive. Then I would have an external setup that mirrors internal speeds of the new MBP?
If you can find a portable enclosure that will truly support those kind of read/write speeds at a sustained level, yes, but honestly IMO that’s too much for only 500gb. I’d personally think the speed on the T5 (or EVO with a good enclosure) is more than sufficient. If you’re not worried about cost, then that’s a viable option, but for almost that same cost you can get a 1tb Samsung T5 that will be wicked fast already. But again this is just my opinion.
 
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Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Just one more question, if you don't mind. I guess the only "step up" would be something like this? https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-970-E...F8&qid=1532630678&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+970

+ some $30 dollar enclosure that makes it a portable drive. Then I would have an external setup that mirrors internal speeds of the new MBP?
- External PCIe enclosures with Thunderbolt interface (which it would pretty much need to be to beat a T5 with any significant margin) are not cheap and certainly not $30.
 
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If you can find a portable enclosure that will truly support those kind of read/write speeds at a sustained level, yes, but honestly IMO that’s too much for only 500gb. I’d personally think the speed on the T5 (or EVO with a good enclosure) is more than sufficient. If you’re not worried about cost, then that’s a viable option, but for almost that same cost you can get a 1tb Samsung T5 that will be wicked fast already. But again this is just my opinion.

Understood. Thanks so much for your assistance! Have a great day.
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- External PCIe enclosures with Thunderbolt interface (which it would pretty much need to be to beat a T5 with any significant margin) are not cheap and certainly not $30.

Ah, I thought something like this would suffice.

https://www.amazon.ca/Wavlink-NGFF-...d=1532631691&sr=1-7&keywords=m2+ssd+enclosure
 
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- Nope. That one won't work at all for the 970 EVO you found, in fact.
It's for SATA AHCI. The SSD you found is PCIe NVMe, which is completely different.

Note also the description for the enclosure:

Ahh, ok. I understand. Thanks for clearing that up! I will look more carefully next time! T5 is probably the way to go.
 
I'm going to go against the Sammy T5 crowd and offer that I'm now enamored with Sandisk's Extreme Portable SSD. This, coming from an owner of a first-day buyer of a 500GB T5 that is on my desk right now and I don't know how many 850 Pro/EVO SSDs installed in my PCs and Mini Servers and enclosures.

Last week I saw Best Buy's ad for the 500GB Sandisk unit for $99 and shopped around only to find find that Amazon was offering the 1TB unit at $199 - the 1TB unit showed up in my mailbox around an hour ago... The internet is a pretty nifty resource

I have a 500GB Sandisk Extreme Portable SSD already, and it's as zippy as my T5 - with the Sandisk's rubberized enclosure and identical 3-year warranty, I'd pick it over a T5 at the same price. And, given that the interwebs already have rumors about the T7 showing up, that should clear things up? /s

If you need volumes of storage, consider Best Buy's easystore 8TB drive - it's always "on sale" and the enclosures have either a WD Red or White NAS drive installed. I own several, and they've been bulletproof for my needs.

FWIW I back up everyday and one of the SSD and HD backups end up in a 2-day fire-rated safe. I use Arq to back up.
 
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If you are ok with the slower speeds I’d suggest getting an external HDD drive, not an SSD one. You can get a two terabyte one for a lot less.

As for suggestions, I’d really look around and read reviews and lookout for anything with a high failure rate.

Heck you can get a 4tb HDD for only $125-150: https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Por...sb-c+drive&dpPl=1&dpID=41u14pVvuiL&ref=plSrch

Also I use Time Machine with no problems. Some use other backup options but it is really a matter of preference. Time machine is simple and is a full image copy of your machine.
I am doing this very same research right now. Two things stand out so far:

1. The discussions Ive read indicate that SSDs lack the permanence of HDDs. That is to say, if you leave your SSD unpowered for 2 years or so you'll damage the data. This is so highly unlikely in my situation and it sounds like it would be also in yours but it does give me some pause.

2. HGST seems to be the most reliable hard drive manufacturer around according to several articles Ive read. This explains why OWC Macsales.com uses them in their drives.

Curious to hear what solution you come up with @mr.anthonyramos as our data footprints are roughly similar.
 
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I am doing this very same research right now. Two things stand out so far:

1. The discussions Ive read indicate that SSDs lack the permanence of HDDs. That is to say, if you leave your SSD unpowered for 2 years or so you'll damage the data. This is so highly unlikely in my situation and it sounds like it would be also in yours but it does give me some pause.

2. HGST seems to be the most reliable hard drive manufacturer around according to several articles Ive read. This explains why OWC Macsales.com uses them in their drives.

Curious to hear what solution you come up with @mr.anthonyramos as our data footprints are roughly similar.

I’m gonna go with a Lacie again.

I have two 1TB RUGGED drives still working after 6 years. And one 2TB RAID still working after 2.5 years.

I have a feeling my luck are with these. I’m looking at the 5TB RAID.
 
I’m gonna go with a Lacie again.

I have two 1TB RUGGED drives still working after 6 years. And one 2TB RAID still working after 2.5 years.

I have a feeling my luck are with these. I’m looking at the 5TB RAID.
@mr.anthonyramos one thing to keep in mind is that Seagate bought Lacie in 2014. Now read this:
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/

And

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q3-2017/

This might give me some pause. Maybe check out macsales.com if you want a prebuilt solution...
 
Also, to the OP, doing backups and primary storage on the same drive is rarely a very good idea.

This was probably in reply to my comment in #2 that I use the 5TB rugged for Archive and backups. Obviously I don't have primary data and backup of the same data on the same drive. The Archive data on the 5TB is backed up to other drives including an offsite one, and CrashPlan. The 5TB Lacie is a way of having access to ALL my data, and a way of backing up all my day-to-day data when away from base.
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@mr.anthonyramos one thing to keep in mind is that Seagate bought Lacie in 2014. Now read this:
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/

And

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q3-2017/

This might give me some pause. Maybe check out macsales.com if you want a prebuilt solution...

I suspect BackBlaze don't use portable 2.5" drives. Also the first link is coming up for five years old.
 
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This was probably in reply to my comment in #2 that I use the 5TB rugged for Archive and backups. Obviously I don't have primary data and backup of the same data on the same drive. The Archive data on the 5TB is backed up to other drives including an offsite one, and CrashPlan. The 5TB Lacie is a way of having access to ALL my data, and a way of backing up all my day-to-day data when away from base.
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I suspect BackBlaze don't use portable 2.5" drives. Also the first link is coming up for five years old.


Not for nothing but I just literally this last week had a Seagate 2.5 give up the ghost. 3 years old light use.
 
Not for nothing but I just literally this last week had a Seagate 2.5 give up the ghost. 3 years old light use.

Bad luck :(. This whole "which brand is best" is a minefield. Everyone has their own experience and I find it impossible to find any objective reliability data relevant to the actual drives available to buy when I want one. It is a constantly changing scene, as names take over other names and sizes keep going up. I tend to agree with someone who said earlier that they are all pretty similar these days, and maybe the best parameter to buy on is warranty.
 
Bad luck :(. This whole "which brand is best" is a minefield. Everyone has their own experience and I find it impossible to find any objective reliability data relevant to the actual drives available to buy when I want one. It is a constantly changing scene, as names take over other names and sizes keep going up. I tend to agree with someone who said earlier that they are all pretty similar these days, and maybe the best parameter to buy on is warranty.
Yep I agree with that re warranty. I guess for me that Backblaze article was the closest dataset to what my own observation and intuition had been saying to me. Having worked in customer facing computer service for over a decade I have a somewhat unique perspective. Seagate, to me, was once the leader and has made some pretty egregious mistakes. The MacBook (2006) HDD failure epidemic on the ubiquitous 60gb drives was entirely due to a Seagate manufacturing flaw. Anyways I do agree drives often comes down to brand loyalty and price at time of purchase and that dataset was really interesting and possibly correlative.
 
This was probably in reply to my comment in #2 that I use the 5TB rugged for Archive and backups. Obviously I don't have primary data and backup of the same data on the same drive. The Archive data on the 5TB is backed up to other drives including an offsite one, and CrashPlan. The 5TB Lacie is a way of having access to ALL my data, and a way of backing up all my day-to-day data when away from base.
- It was in response to the OP who wanted a drive "for back-up and storing all my photos/videos and other files".

I tend to agree with someone who said earlier that they are all pretty similar these days, and maybe the best parameter to buy on is warranty.
- That was probably me. Design, connector/interface (USB-C, USB-B micro, Thunderbolt, eSATA, etc.), and warranty (though even warranty is typically nearly the same between manufacturers) are the deciding factors rather than quality and reliability.

I guess for me that Backblaze article was the closest dataset to what my own observation and intuition had been saying to me. Having worked in customer facing computer service for over a decade I have a somewhat unique perspective.
- I've used a multitude of different brands over the years, and I've never had any failures. As a result, I don't discriminate very much between them in my purchase decisions. Design and connection type has become the most important factors for me.
But I only have the experience of my own use and that of my immediate circle of friends and family to draw upon, not any professional experience.
 
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You need THREE external drives:

1. First drive -- cloned backup of internal drive.

2. Second drive -- external "primary storage" drive for large libraries, such as movies, music, pictures, etc.

3. Third drive -- cloned backup of "primary external storage" drive.

And that doesn't include your "off-site" backups, as well...! ;)
 
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Great info here. But I can't use a USB-C drive, limited to USB-3 on my nMP. So what suggestions do you have for an external backup SSD drive. And I need, AT MOST, a 1TB drive.
 
Great info here. But I can't use a USB-C drive, limited to USB-3 on my nMP. So what suggestions do you have for an external backup SSD drive. And I need, AT MOST, a 1TB drive.
- You can use drives with USB-C just fine. Just connect with a USB-C to USB-A cable; most drives come with one included in addition to USB-C to USB-C. Samsung T5 for instance has both.
 
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Right; I have several T5s and in the box along with the external SSD are two cables, one which is USB-C to USB-C and the other is USB-C to USB-A (USB3). The T5 has a USB-C port on it, so one end of the cable has to be USB-C. The T5 comes in various capacities: 256 GB, 500 GB, 1 TB and 2 TB. Not cheap by any means, but far faster and smaller than most portable external HDDs. This makes it ideal for travel as well as for use at home. I use mine for current backups and supplementary drives, and then utilize my older external spinner HDDs as archival storage drives.
 
As far as I'm concerned, portable hard drives are a commodity and I'll buy whatever is on sale. That's for backup use. I only run a backup drive for 6-9 months and then replace it, whether it's full or not. I've had too many backup drives fail after a year. (Of course it helps that for me, buying a $50 drive a few times a year is not a hardship. That's not true for everyone.)

For external file storage I'd probably look at a T5, or maybe just put an MX500 into one of the better quality USB enclosures.
 
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